On Oct 10, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Thinker Rix <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2013-10-10 16:52, Paul Mather wrote:
>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Giles Coochey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> *BLINK!*
>>>
>>> Incredible!!!! the way I am seeing the reaction to the initial question,
>>> and trying to query very valid points are now leading me to seriously
>>> reconsider the potential risk I have in continuing to use pfsense as a
>>> security tool.
>>
>> Some people value the S/N ratio of mailing lists. I believe the people
>> asking for the discussion to be moved elsewhere are motivated by that.
>
> Those people should just learn how to use a mailing list properly, before
> using one. A mailing list is *not* just "I enter my daily use email address
> somewhere and receive emails".
> For participating properly at a mailing list you need a proper mail reader
> that is able to sort mail into conversation threads
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversation_threading).
> Then you go and pick the threads that interest you and read them. And you
> ignore those, who do not interest you.
> Additionally it is advised to use an email address only for reading mailing
> lists.
Thank you for the valuable information about how to use mailing lists. I first
started using mailing lists back in the mid/late 1980s, on the JANET network
(British academic network)---back when the Internet was made up of networks
like ARPA, BITNET, UUCP, and the likes and (in my case) you needed to know the
gateway machines that would let you reach those networks and had to incorporate
that routing into the recipients e-mail address. I suspect "those people" you
mention above actually know how to use a mailing list properly. I know I do.
I also know the value of good S/N ratio on technically-focused mailing lists.
>> Maybe if we can establish that, we can finally wrap up this thread as far as
>> pfSense is concerned and get back to a pfSense-focused mailing list.
>
> You can switch *right at this very moment* to a discussion thread that is of
> more interest for you and there you go!
Of course, you're right, and that is wise counsel because it reminds me of one
of the golden rules of mailing lists: unwelcome threads persist only so long as
people reply to them. (This is sometimes better known by the more insulting
adage: "Please don't feed the trolls!" I'm loathe to employ that, though.) I
thought I was making a reasonable point, but it seems as far as I'm concerned,
this thread has passed the point of reasonableness. I'll leave it to you and
your fellow concerned list members to continue mulling it over, and, in your
case, to continue teaching your grandma to suck eggs when it comes to
Netiquette. :-)
Cheers,
Paul.
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