On Fri 11 Apr 2014 12:11:06 NZST +1200, Jeremy Porter wrote:

> The security@ email list is brand new.  Its so we can announce
> issues like Heartbleed.  People can filter on it etc.
> Any security issues we become aware of will be announce here, as
> security advisories.

Perhaps it would be useful to clarify the intended use/purpose of the
lists, at
https://lists.pfsense.org/mailman/listinfo
Write a paragraph if needed, it doesn't have to be a one-liner for each
list.

Is the intended purpose of the SAs to notify of a problem, to point
users to a fix, or both? I am having the Linux distro security lists in
mind[1], and there postings summarise the problem, point to the
background, and state that the user needs to do X to deal with it. Only
security-relevant issues are posted, not general bug fixes.

I would find this method ideal for pfsense too because the noise is low.
It should include problems with packages too - those not using the
package don't need to read on. I do think all the actions the user needs
to do (usually upgrades) need to be posted. If a fix is NA at the time
of the problem notification then you need to post twice.

Perhaps I am mistaken about the pfsense fix for the heartbleed bug - but
if the required, or even only recommended, fix is to upgrade to pfsense
2.1.2 then that must be posted on the security-announce@ too.

The idea, well my idea, would be to only have to follow
security-announce@ and from that to be sure that no security-relevant
action is missed. The discussion list doesn't need that prority.

> The email list and page, we just started working on last week, prior
> to finding out about this, so we push them ahead along with the
> fixed version of pfsense.

Thanks for that!

And thanks too for all the work to fix this openssl problem!

> I think we'd be happy to host a security-discusse@ mailing list if
> people want that.

Not for me. The normal discussion list should be fine. I was trying to
raise the point of security announcements, not security itself.

Thanks again,

Volker

[1] Specifically, opensuse-security-announce  http://lists.opensuse.org/

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