Then you stuck with setting up reverse proxies for those services.

Walter


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Blake Cornell <
bcorn...@integrissecurity.com> wrote:

>  Its a TCP traceroute, not UDP nor ICMP. I need to provide TCP based
> services.
>
> I would prefer staying within the framework of the interface or nominal
> BSD magic.
>
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> On 07/12/2014 09:54 PM, Chris Buechler wrote:
>
>  I don't see the point. If you don't want people to see the path, don't
> allow traceroute in (or stop it after the first NAT). If you do, what do
> you care if the layers of NAT can be enumerated. If anything even remotely
> useful to an attacker can be done to your network because someone knows how
> many layers of NAT you have, you have a lot bigger problems than showing
> that in a traceroute.
>
>  pf scrub does have a min-ttl option but it's not one that's exposed
> anywhere in the GUI and would require changing the source to use. Not
> something I've ever seen a real need to use.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Blake Cornell <
> bcorn...@integrissecurity.com> wrote:
>
>>  I would put it on a report as an issue.. further more... .... no
>> comment....
>>
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>>   On 07/10/2014 05:29 PM, Walter Parker wrote:
>>
>> I disagree that this is a vulnerability/weakness. If this is truly your
>> only issue with the network, I'd call it good and done if you are not the
>> DOD/NSA.
>>
>>  If you are, then you need to start again with an even more secure
>> foundation.
>>
>>
>>  Walter
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Blake Cornell <
>> bcorn...@integrissecurity.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is a reason for it. It works well except for this ONE issue.
>>>
>>> I like setting up 0 vulnerability/weakness networks. This is the only
>>> one minus presentation/application issues.
>>>
>>> Thank you both for your input. I'll touch base when I determine a
>>> resolution strategy.
>>>
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>>>  On 07/10/2014 01:49 PM, James Bensley wrote:
>>> > Further to what Walter has said - Double NAT....Boooooooo!
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