This is message #2 from John with my reply #3 interspersed.

RC



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Hello John and Thanks for Responding:

I  want  to  offer the proverbial olive branch to John and others who may be
offended,  mad  or  anything else because of my comments. Based on previous
experience,  I  know it is easy for these professional debates to digress or
be  misconstrued as personal attacks.

Please  understand  that  my comments are NOT directed to any person and are
not  meant to be an attack on the person's worth or dignity. Instead, I hope
to  discuss  issues relating to the practice of OT. It is however, difficult
to talk about OT practice without occasional reference to individuals doing
the treatment.

All  this  being  said, I have interspersed my comments with John's original
message.

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On 2/23/2001, John Duffy Said:

JD> This is in response to the comments from Ron Carson and Adrienne C.
JD> Lauer. First of all I'm glad I sparked your interest. I would like to
JD> clarify a few things since you clearly have no idea what kind of O.T. I
JD> am. The original writer wrote that PT was intercepting orders for O.T.
JD> and changing them. The reality is that in some facilities ortho patients
JD> are split up based on their diagnosis Upper Extremity is seen by O.T and
JD> for the most part the rest of the body is seen by PT and in fact, many
JD> doctors are becoming use to this fact.

I  worked in acute care rehab where this was common practice. The reason for
this  was primarily because of the SENIOR OT's position that OT should treat
UE  and  PT  should  treat LE. She conveyed this belief to the physician who
naturally  referred  to  OT  for  UE. I fought unsuccessfully to change this
perception and practice.

All  this  said,  I  don't  see  any problem with OT treating people with UE
injury. Heck, I don't think there is a problem with OT's treating LE injury.
My  concern,  however,  is that OT's are doing just that, treating UE injury
instead  of  occupational performance deficits. And, as far as philosophy is
concerned  OT's  primary  domain  of concern is NOT treating injury, whether
it's brain, UE or LE.

I  think  doctor's  are  becoming used to the fact that OT treats UE because
some  OT's  are making them used to the fact. I find it difficult to believe
that doctors view OT's as UE experts until they are told by an OT that OT is
the UE expert.

On  a  side note, I personally don't consider OT's to be UE experts. Most of
the  OT's  at  my  previous employer would get assistance from PT's to treat
difficulty  UE  problems.  And,  knowing  what I know about OT education and
practice,  I would almost certainly recommend a PT over an OT for a STRICTLY
orthopaedic  UE  injury  with the exception of a hand injury in which case I
would recommend a CHT (either a PT or and OT)

JD> I do not make the rules I just see the patients that are on my schedule.
JD> Now, if I have an eval that is a RTC repair I will certainly look at the
JD> person  from  our  O.T. perspective in a holistic manner but I also will
JD> treat  that  patient  according  to protocol.

To  me,  this  statement  is  backward.  The  OT perspective might be better
expressed  by  saying;  I will treat this person from a holistic perspective
and certainly look at following the treatment protocol.

To  me  it's  a  matter  of emphasis. John's statement is very medical-based
(treat  the  injury  and  look  at  them  from  our  OT  perspective) versus
occupation  based  (treat  their  occupational  deficits  and  look at their
medical problems)

JD> Yes, some of the treatment that I perform could be considered To PT,

Well,  in  all  seriousness,  any  OT doing PT is practicing illegally. This
statement  opens  up the potential for litigation. And, any OT practicing PT
must certainly be outside OT's domain of concern.


JD>  but  in  O.T.  I  prefer  to  call  it  adjunctive methods based on the
JD> Occupational  Performance Model which is procedures that prepare patient
JD> for occupational performance ie. exercise and modalities.(See Pedretti).

Doing  something because it MAY prepare someone to do occupation is only 1/2
of  the  picture.  The  other  half is that one must actually facilitate the
client  to  engage  in  the occupation. To best do that, one should identify
meaningful occupations which are impaired by the client's injury. Meaningful
occupation   should   be   the   treatment  outcome  and  therapists  should
self-evaluate treatment efficacy by how the client is able to complete their
occupation.

I  think  the concept of doing something because it allows someone to engage
in occupation highly misrepresents the OT profession. Almost all health care
professions  do  things  so  people  will  be  better  able  to take care of
themselves,  be  productive  and have fun (i.e. occupational performance) My
wife, a nurse, gives people pain medication so they can get up and go to the
bathroom  and  not  use  a  bedpan.  So,  by the above definition, she is in
essence  doing  a  procedure  which  prepares  the  client  for occupational
performance.  Certainly,  though, no one would construe her actions as being
occupational  therapy.  Why, because her goal is not the client going to the
bathroom (i.e. an occupation), her goal is to decrease pain.

Likewise,  if  an  OT's goal is to increase ROM, strength, balance, etc so a
client  can  engage in occupation then I have a hard time seeing how this is
OT.  However, if the OT increases occupational performance by increasing ROM,
strength,  etc then they have probably done OT. Why, because the goal is the
occupation not the ROM, strength, et.


JD> If  my department wanted to they could not allow O.T. to treat the Upper
JD> Extremity  and  as  aresult  referrals  would decrease and so would O.T.
JD> positions.

Seems like the facility has a very LIMITED concept of OT.

JD>That  is  why I feel fortunate to work in my facility because O.T. is not
JD>onthe  chopping  block  like so many other hospitals. My point is that if
JD>you  are  an  O.T.  and  you  have  a  job  in which you must treat Upper
JD>Extremity pathology you better learn how to treat your patients correctly
JD>or  the  patient is at risk. Mr. Carson and Ms. Lauer I am not trying
JD>to  be  a PT. I am proud to be an O.T. and in fact I am actively involved
JD>in  fighting  for  our  profession  in Florida. I think with the medicare
JD>changes  that  are requiring all documentation to be related to function,
JD>this  is  a perfect time to educate our representatives on the definition
JD>of  O.T.  and believe me I plan to do so. I apologize if I increased your
JD>BP with my comments that was certainly not my intension.

JD> Sincerely,

JD> John E. Duffy OTR/L CCCE,
JD> Occupational Therapy Department Mercy Hospital
JD> Miami,Florida

Thanks for the dialogue. I sincerely look forward to your reply and I hope I
have not offended you.

Ron Carson


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