Hi I would like to say - just to clear any misconceptions - that I am not on the WCAG samurai list. Gian
-----Original Message----- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lachlan Hunt Sent: Monday, 29 May 2006 10:28 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility standards - for commercial consumption Tony Crockford wrote: > My suggestion and hope, was that this community could create a > document(s) that advised the web design community at large in a > pragmatic and specific way how to *implement* the guidelines. > ... > Of course the Academic approach dictates one generic document that > covers all technologies - easier to maintain and future-proof, and > that's the answer I suspect the WAI will give when asked to extend WCAG2 > to include real-life specific and pragmatic examples. Real life examples is supposedly what Techniques for WCAG 2.0 is all about, though it's not very good or complete. I think this illustrates what the web developer community should be focussing on. Rather than trying to translate a technical specification to make it readable by average joe developers, it would be more helpful to focus on the actual techniques that can be easily applied by others. Much like Position is Everything focuses on practical examples and explanations of CSS techniques and related issues, a site that does the same for accessibility would be very useful. There are several sites and resources that do offer accessibility tools and advice, such as Juicy Studio and WATS.ca, but when it comes to something that really walks a developer through accessibility from designing and building with modern, accessible techniques; coping with browser limitations, through to actually testing it with (and understanding how a disabled person uses) assistive technology, there really isn't all that much readily available. How many people here actually test their sites with a screen reader (or other assistive technology) regularly? One of the major problems is the price (JAWS, HPR and Windows-Eyes start from around $US800 or more), but even using a trial version, I expect most of us wouldn't really know where to begin. -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ****************************************************** ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************