Yes.

 

Edward

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From: marilyn meadors [mailto:marilynmead...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:22 PM
To: edward; Yiming Zhang; listening-l@zrz.tu-berlin.de
Subject: RE: Stepping Out

 

All those feelings--anger, sadness, happiness, jealousy, etc.,  
They cannot be observed because they are not in you, but how about in
others? If you observe them
there does that mean that those feelings are you?

Marilyn 
> From: ewjo...@cox.net
> To: yiming_zhang2...@yahoo.com; Listening-l@zrz.TU-Berlin.DE
> Subject: RE: Stepping Out
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:44:55 -0500
> 
> We are the world, what we see in our world is what we are, so we are the
> greatest, and we are the weakest. The observer is what is being observed.
> 
> Edward
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yiming Zhang [mailto:yiming_zhang2...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:31 AM
> To: Edward Jones; Listening-l@zrz.TU-Berlin.DE
> Subject: Re: Stepping Out
> 
> Those are my words in paraphasing what K said and not a direct quotation. 
> If you reject my re-statement of what K said, then could you offer a
correct
> clarification of what K meant?
> 
> I know what James meant and so do you who have endorsed his understanding
> of what K said. I am sure there are many people who, like you, would also
> accept 
> James'
> interpretation of what K said. Numbers don't count. Truth does. 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Jones <ewjo...@cox.net>
> To: Yiming Zhang <yiming_zhang2...@yahoo.com>;
Listening-l@zrz.TU-Berlin.DE
> Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 6:19:21 AM
> Subject: RE: Stepping Out
> 
> 
> 
> Edward
> New Book Release
> www.selftransformation.org 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: listening-l-ow...@zrz.tu-berlin.de
> [mailto:listening-l-ow...@zrz.tu-berlin.de] On Behalf Of Yiming Zhang
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 10:34 PM
> To: Edward Jones; Listening-l@zrz.TU-Berlin.DE
> Subject: Re: Stepping Out
> 
> I did not make any conclusions. I was merely paraphasing
> what K said. 
> 
> Which of K's conclusions was wrong and false?   
> 
> ``  We are indeed the world in the sense that we are all experiencing life
> as though we are an unique, separate, individual human being living among
> other people.  Did K say this, or you?
> 
> Edward 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Jones <ewjo...@cox.net>
> To: Yiming Zhang <yiming_zhang2...@yahoo.com>;
Listening-l@zrz.TU-Berlin.DE
> Sent: Thu, June 9, 2011 12:38:04 PM
> Subject: RE: Stepping Out
> 
> 
> 
> 
> K said that we are the world - this stream of human consciousness -
> and asked what happens if we stepped out of the stream.
> (Appendix, The Reluctant Messiah by Sidney Fields.)
> 
> The above, in my mind, is the central theme of the Krishnamurti teaching.
> 
> We are indeed the world in the sense that we are all experiencing life as
> though we are an unique, separate, individual human being living among
> other people.  
> 
> Why did K raise the question of stepping out of what we are? And is this
> proposal sensible?
> 
> Yiming, when you ask a question from a conclusion, as you did above, you
are
> starting with a false positive.
> 
> Edward
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