Yeah, it depends on a lot of things…

Since the DTS job also randomizes the order of files in package you might have 
several downloads of the same package but different files going. Which is hard 
to combat with the BITS policy and BC will never know about that situation.

//A

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Phil Wilcock
Sent: den 2 juni 2015 12:22
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache

And in a perfect world, you would have one client pulling from the Content 
Server (DP) and the rest pulling locally from that client. But that’s a whole 
other story ☺

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: 02 June 2015 11:06
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache

Short story, on Win7-8.1 you cant.

Long story, on Win10 you can, but its heap of info. Since each segment is 
reported which clients offered and which client it got it from its just too 
much info to make sense. There is a thread on our forum about it I believe.

I think a better way is to report on the stats of how much data your clients 
give out to others. But that removes the capabilities to report on certain 
packages etc. This can also be done on Win7-8 through MOFinf the BC perf 
counters and report on them.

Also, if you have 3 clients with the content you will find that it got roughly 
about 33% from each clients. So the reports get a bit boring after a while as 
BC is really efficient of sharing among the group.

//A

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kehl Reto
Sent: den 2 juni 2015 11:42
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: AW: [mssms] BranchCache

I have just implemented BranchCache and also installed those great reports from 
2Pint Software (http://2pintsoftware.com/products/branchcache-reporting/), many 
thanks!

how can I find out which client serves the content?


Von: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Matt Browne
Gesendet: Montag, 1. Juni 2015 17:01
An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Betreff: RE: [mssms] BranchCache

This was a really useful conversation btw.  Thanks to everyone for the comments 
and links etc.

Branchcache is something we’ve been meaning to look at for a while, but I had a 
few concerns and question.  This has answered pretty much all of them ☺.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Wilcock
Sent: 29 May 2015 23:30
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache

Perfmon on the server gives quite a decent overview of how much data you have 
saved by using BranchCache over time

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff468720%28v=ws.10%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russ Rimmerman
Sent: 29 May 2015 23:16
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache

I created a powershell script that parses the branchcache events and totals up 
the “bytes from peer” and stuffs it into WMI.  It has a math bug I’ve not had a 
chance to fix but it’s 97% completed otherwise.  If you’re powershell savvy and 
feel like tracking/fixing it I’ll be happy to share ☺.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:47 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache

Yeah – that’s one of the pains – the only way you really CAN tell is by 
checking out the perfmon counters on the clients themselves.

I guess that as that data is WMI’able you could gather it somehow



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Whitcher
Sent: 28 May 2015 15:38
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] BranchCache

I have branchcache enabled on my distribution points here, although honestly I 
don't have any measurements of how much WAN traffic it saves us.  I know it's 
used, as when I have occasion to go through client logs to troubleshoot a 
deployment I sometimes see log entries that show it using branchcache for 
packages.

I probably should try to figure out just exactly how much data is being 
distributed by branchcache instead of over the WAN, but at best that's a 
project for the "spare time" list, and that's a long list.

Steve


On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:23 AM, David Jones 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. I have one question about a blog post at 2pint. Has 
anyone found this to be a problem? Does this mean that for the very small files 
within a package all computers will have to go back over the WAN to a DP to get 
them?
Dave
====

WARNING TEST THIS FIRST OR WE’LL ALL BE DOOMED I TELL YOU!

BranchCache has a built-in filesize limit, under which it will ignore content. 
By default that is set to 64k, which is fine for a lot of scenarios.

If, however your content contains lots of small files, (think xml, config 
files, sharepoint, web pages, need I go on!?), then you might want to implement 
this little registry hack.

So, go to 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\PeerDistKM\Parameters)- on 
your BC server. The value that you need to change is MinContentLength

You do need to cycle the BranchCache service for this to take effect so bear in 
mind that you will lose your existing  BC content hashes and will have to 
recreate them.

Set this to something smaller than the default of 64k, then do some testing to 
see if your wee files are indeed being cached – don’t just throttle it right 
down straight away! I’ve had it down to 4096 (4k) and it behaves perfectly 
well, but be aware that changing this setting can and will have an effect on 
BranchCache performance so tread lightly.

Cheers!

Phil 2Pint

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Jason Wallace 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I would have to disagree with you on that.

Branch Cache does indeed work well and performs as expected.  There are 
certainly some pieces where OneSite and Nomad offer functionality that is plain 
not provided within Branch Cache but generally with Branch Cache you configure 
it once on the devices and it plain works.  While Branch Cache

Regards “intensive development” Branch Cache was introduced in Windows VISTA 
and has been included and supported in the Windows family ever since.  The 
developers have done a good, sound job and the feature is largely without issue.

A reasonable and responsible recommendation is to evaluate products alongside 
other solutions and to propose the solution that best meets your customer’s 
budget and needs.

FWIW I have deployed a Branch Cache solution to an estate with 1400 sites 
globally and I presently support a CM2012R2 estate of 22,000 devices running 
almost exclusively on Branch Cache and an organisation considerably larger than 
this with OneSite.

Perhaps you’d like to point out where you feel Branch Cache is inferior and we 
can then approach matters constructively

Jason

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: 28 May 2015 14:27
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] BranchCache


It doesn't work well or as advertised that's why many do not use it, the return 
is not worth the headache. This I've heard from colleagues and this list since 
I haven't tried it personally in production.

The recommendation is to use 3rd party tools provider like 1e or adaptiva that 
have done intensive development on their tools.

Cesar A
On May 28, 2015 6:19 AM, "David Jones" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There is not a whole lot written about this. Is anyone here using it? Your 
thoughts?

Dave











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