Or use any of the FedLine sites as they require Java, and are slower than 
snails to keep their software functioning with the latest versions of Java.
 
Jon
 
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:28:16 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Your users don't file their timecards with ADP, then...

Kurt

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Kennedy, Jim <[email protected]> 
wrote:








2 depends on Oracle, Chrome has been begging them for it for some time.  >From 
Chrome’s perspective 1 and 2 are the same. That said, I honestly do not think
 Firefox has any plans to discontinue NPAPI support. Their approach is disabled 
by default….user beware if you enable it.
 
Anecdotal but I can say that most of my users use Chrome, and they have not 
missed Java.
 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Damien Solodow

Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:49 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker



 
Doubtful; I see one of two things happening:
1)     
Oracle blinks and releases an updated JRE that doesn’t use NPAPI

2)     
Chrome includes its own JRE like they did with Flash

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Senior Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Melvin Backus

Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:44 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
So if I’m reading this correctly that would seem to mean that all the thousands 
(millions?) of pages with Java embedded are going to be relegated to IE only? 
 (And JAVA will finally DIE? Albeit a slow and lingering death.)
 
 
--

There are 10 kinds of people in the world...

         those who understand binary and those who don't.
 
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kurt Buff

Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 10:41 AM

To: ntsysadm

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
 



Not Java specifically - the NPAPI interface.

So is Firefox, and so will Edge...

Kurt


 

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<[email protected]> wrote:



Interesting.  I didn’t realize that Chrome was doing away with Java 
functionality.  Thanks for the
 update.
 



From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim

Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 5:12 AM




To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker






 
Demand for this in Chrome will dwindle to zero in September when there isn’t 
any way to run Java
 in Chrome.  It’s already dwindling….we did not bypass the block in the last 
patch for Chrome that disabled it.
 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of James Rankin

Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:08 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
OK, FSLogix confirm that currently the Java remediation only works with IE. You 
can restrict
 other browsers on a process basis only currently, so you could force Chrome or 
Firefox to a specific Java version by process, but not by URL.
 
However, support for other browsers is on the roadmap. Any customer demand 
(probably someone
 coming along with 5000 users and wanting it to work in Chrome) will “drive the 
roadmap forward”, i.e. they’ll do it ASAP if there’s a big enough sale at the 
end of it
J
 
Hope this helps,
 
 
 
JR
 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of James Rankin

Sent: 03 June 2015 18:56

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
OK, I tried to test with Chrome and found out that Chrome has disabled just 
about all
 the plugins from the websites I was using for testing L
 
Waiting for an answer from FSLogix support as I now have to put the kids in the 
bath!
 
 
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Link

Sent: 03 June 2015 18:44

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
 

Probably not pants.


 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, James Rankin <[email protected]> 
wrote:



Let me get you an answer on that…maybe something I should have tested
 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife

Sent: 03 June 2015 17:22

To: '[email protected]'

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
So, it looks like FSLogix only works with IE?  Is that true?
 



From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of James Rankin

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:16 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
OK, quick and dirty run-down, but I’m sure you can all get the gist of it 
(hopefully!)
 
http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/fslogix-first-look-1-managing-legacy-or.html
 
 
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kurt Buff

Sent: 02 June 2015 17:38

To: ntsysadm

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker
 


Yes, please put up the link here when done.


Kurt


 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:43 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]> wrote:



I shall endeavour to finish this as soon as possible then!
 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Maglinger, Paul

Sent: 02 June 2015 16:12

To: '[email protected]'

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
Me too!
 
-Paul
 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Sean Martin

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:07 AM




To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker






 

Definitely interested.



- Sean




On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:08 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]> wrote:





What you need is FSLogix Java Rules Manager, only allow the vulnerable Java 
version to be seen when
 a specific URL is visited, otherwise – it’s invisible to the user and OS, and 
the latest version is used.
 
I’m writing an article up on this today, if anyone’s interested in Java version 
management (on a sysadmin
 list, who isn’t?)
 
J
 
 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife

Sent: 02 June 2015 14:51

To: '[email protected]'

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
Update Java?  That’s just crazy talk.  We’re still at 7u51, with no roadmap in 
place to go any higher. 
 Not my choice, btw, it is development issues with Oracle.
 







From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Ed Ziots

Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:48 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 
Nice.strategy

Ed






On May 29, 2015 9:31 AM, "Robert Strong" <[email protected]> wrote:






Ensure you have the latest patches installed for Java and Flash. Exploit kits 
like Angler,
 Nuclear and Magnitude are starting to distribute Ransomware more frequently 
via drive-by download attacks and malicious advertisements on common websites.
 
We’ve had several ransomware incidents in the last few months all due to 
unpatched systems.
 Host based detection is limited at best, but one thing I have noticed in all 
incidents seen is that the malware typically uses hxxp://ipinfo.io/ip to 
determine its public facing IP address.
 
We have created correlation rules that detect users going to this domain via 
our McAfee
 ESM SIEM, we then have an alarm that fires when that correlation rule is seen 
and we can automatically apply an ePO tag to enforce a policy that severely 
‘disables’ the system (no R/W to network shares, restricted HTTP/HTTPS going 
out). Our alarm also e-mails
 out some key characteristics about the infected machine for easy 
identification by our IT Service Desk team.
 
Ransomware isn’t going away and it’s going to get worse. We’ve been able to 
detect these
 IoC’s and have the issue remediated in under 7 minutes.
 
Cheers,
 

Rob Strong

Information Security Specialist

Equitable Life of Canada
 
 
 


From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of David McSpadden

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:17 PM

To: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 

That's mine today.


What variant was yours



Sent from my iPhone




On May 28, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
<[email protected]> wrote:







We had that the other day.  The files are getting encrypted, but the extensions 
are
 not getting changed.
 







From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Link

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:37 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Cryptlocker


 

The text files created should indicate the affected user with the Owner 
attribute, no?

 





 



On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM, David McSpadden <[email protected]> wrote:






I am pretty sure I have pc with this on it in my network.
I have ran scans on workstations.
I still do not see it but I have the tell tale signs.
The HELP_DECRYPT files in network folders.
The word and excel files not being able to be opened etc.
How do I remove something that Trend is not seeing?
Nor Windows Endpoint protection?
 
 
David McSpadden
Systems Administrator
Indiana Members Credit Union
P:
317.554.8190 | F:
317.554.8106
 
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