No we don't want users going to the store, but we want to be able to control it like in Win8.1. We do have some internally developed apps published to the store, and we want users to be able to run those.
Daniel Ratliff From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [mssms] RE: Quick Poll CB/CBB will always have the in-box apps, Edge, Store, and Cortana; LTSB won't. Having the full store open is a completely different discussion/debate, but there are options there to limit the apps to just those you've selected for your organization. The deferral period will be fairly long (more than several, less than many months - can't say exact numbers until they are published), and it's not 100% firm either - if there are still issues, it can be extended. Thanks, -Michael From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:19 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] RE: Quick Poll I wouldn't want my enterprise users to have the Windows store either. Who would? You really want your users going out to the windows store and installing whatever they please on your corporate owned devices? I'll need a definitive list of features before I can make a decision I suppose. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:50 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] RE: Quick Poll Its a lot more than Edge...I cant find the exact post, but I know I saw somewhere the Store is gone, some of the native apps are gone, etc. LTSB appears to be more for ATMs and such... https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3fo8wp/windows_10_enterprise_ltsb/ Note that the LTSB codebase will be supported for the full 10 years, but it is really targeted at things like ATMs, kiosks, medical devices, etc. - things that are generally not subject to change for long periods of time and/or are deemed "mission critical". If you expect things to get used by users, you probably don't actually want to consider Windows 10 LTSB, as it will get zero of the feature updates that are likely to come on a 4-6 month cycle going forward. It would generally be best to get on Current Branch for Business (CBB), where you can get additional time (up to a year or more, depending on the last major update) to push out major updates. This is actually one of the reasons there's still an "Insiders" ring post-RTM - this allows you to build images and test new features as part of the Insider ring, which will eventually be pushed out to Current Branch, and then to Current Branch for Business after that. This is the recommendations for testing/rollout with Windows 10 - LTSB isn't really designed for "user population" use. Daniel Ratliff From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 8:38 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] RE: Quick Poll So if we don't do CBB we don't get Edge and if we do CBB and an update breaks something in testing we are screwed at the end of the deferral period? Tough choice, my users like Chrome already so I guess they won't really miss Edge and my experience thus far with edge has been iffy so I'm still leaning towards LTSB. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:26 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] RE: Quick Poll For CB/CBB, there is a deferral period (checking on the specifics, but it's "a while" :)); subsequent security updates after that deferral period require a newer Windows 10 upgrade. For example, some number of months after the release of a new feature upgrade, security updates will be dependent on that new feature upgrade. Thanks, -Michael From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 11:38 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] RE: Quick Poll Thanks Mike. And to clarify, if you do choose one of the CBs, you must deploy the latest branch available for that CB (within a the specific time period for that branch) or you don't get Windows Updates anymore? Is that correct or are there other ramifications for not applying the latest branch? J From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 11:28 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [mssms] RE: Quick Poll We believe for most organizations you should use a mix: * A small percentage (maybe just your own lab machines) on the Insider branch, to see new features as they are being developed. * A small percentage on the Current Branch, as early adopters. * A significant percentage on the Current Branch for Business, deployed in phases. * Some percentage (dependent on industry) of mission-critical machines on the Long Term Servicing Branch, probably averaging under 20% (could be zero for some firms, higher for others). Maybe that mix works out to <1%, 1%, 80%, and the rest. 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