Yes the app is run as SYSTEM but installs for all users. The big catch is that the config file ONLY gets installed as part of the setup.exe. So the config file and setup.exe are in the same folder. When you run setup it reads the config file to add “stuff” to the system. Then the user clicks on the plugin and this in turn creates a regkey
I might be able to do something with the user state though, I didn’t think of that. I was hoping that if there was a small chance the user did not have the app installed, to install it at that time, which is why I figured if I just did a mass “reinstall” of the plugin it will fix all my issues, but then I still have a detection problem, as I can’t deploy the same app, if that app is already installed (obviously), so I was trying to find something that is “different” and that regkey is changing. Thanks, Kevin Johnston From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [mssms] App Detection Registry - not detecting So does that app run as system but install for all users there by adding the registry key to each and every users registry hive? Why not just create an app that only deploys the config file? Then you can install for user provided the config file isn't in a part of the file system the user cannot access. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM Kevin Johnston <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: No because the deployment requires admin rights. So I have some funkiness working to get that to deploy as system. I use App deploy Kit to actually do the install. I first delete any registry keys. Then I have to copy the files to the local c drive to actually do the install. This all works very well, except for when the actually software stays the same, but a config file that needs to write to the registry is different. The problem is I cannot just change the key. The software has a config file that will write to the registry after it is run, so I basically want to just reinstall the application, but can’t because it keeps detecting that it is already installed. So either it never installs – it detects its already there even though the regkeys/config are different OR It always installs because the detection method does not work, so it just goes over and over.. It is very frustrating! I am looking into changing the detection method to look for the regkey value instead. That may help by pass the SYSTEM deployment, but not sure if that is the same as just adding the info (in my screenshot) to SCCM. Thanks, Kevin Johnston From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:25 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] App Detection Registry - not detecting Deploying as System is your problem. Can you install for user? On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:21 PM Kevin Johnston <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Basically it is an outlook plugin. It gets installed, and when a user “activates it” it creates a key in HKCU. This key has a URL link in it. What I want to do is detect that if that key has a “different” link then reinstall the application. The user then has to close outlook and re-activate the plugin. This will in turn create the reg key with the proper link. So if I were to then re-run the software it should detect the “new/proper” link and ignore installing it again. What is happening is it ignores everything, and just constantly installs the software over and over regardless. And I cannot use an MSI detection because technically it is the same MSI application, so in that case it won’t install anything, and that is not what I want. Thanks, Kevin Johnston From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:09 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] App Detection Registry - not detecting No files are added from this application? On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Kevin Johnston <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: For this particular software, no we cannot. I will have to see if AppDeploy toolkit has some kinda detection methods in it. Thanks, Kevin Johnston From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Juelich, Adam Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:36 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] App Detection Registry - not detecting Is this something that may be better suited for Group Policy Preferences? ----------------------------------------------- Adam Juelich Pulaski Community School District<http://www.pulaskischools.org> Client Management Specialist 920-822-6075<tel:920-822-6075> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Kevin Johnston <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Unfortunately it is the only place any registry keys are created for this software. I cannot do an MSI detection as it is the same software version, just a minor change to a config file. I figured the best way for me to get around it, would be to look at a registry entry. If it exists move on, if it doesn’t then please install/reinstall the software. My end goal is I don’t want it to keep reinstalling. I just want it to install once. If the software installs again when another person logs in, that is fine for us. In our company users do not share machines, so that is a very rare case. Thanks, Kevin Johnston From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Juelich, Adam Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:15 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] App Detection Registry - not detecting I think it is recommended to not use User Registry Hives. What happens when it goes to detect this when someone is logged off, or a different user is logged in? ----------------------------------------------- Adam Juelich Pulaski Community School District<http://www.pulaskischools.org> Client Management Specialist 920-822-6075<tel:920-822-6075> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Kevin Johnston <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have an Application that I have set the detection method to look for a specific key. I have 2 machines – 1 that has the right key and one without. When I deploy the application both machines install it. I would suspect that the machine that had the right key would just “move along” The key is an entry that the software creates once it is launched (HKCU\Software\company\folder\). Everyone in the company has this entry, but they will have a different key This is what my detection looks like: [cid:[email protected]] I cannot figure out why the detection is not working. 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