For that I would go with BranchCache, same effect as multicast (but different) 
but with basically zero failure rate.

Each machine will share to 3 other machines etc. So scales well, but yes, the 
switch gets busy…

From: listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Juelich, Adam
Sent: den 4 februari 2016 18:09
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: Setting up multicast

Ours is on a 2008R2 box.  It was slow and the failure rate was around 20% as 
well.  Nothing like 70 machines failing after the 'format hard disk' step.  
Then you have to get on your good sneakers......


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Adam Juelich

Pulaski Community School District<http://www.pulaskischools.org>

Client Management Specialist

920-822-6075

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Kent, Mark 
<ken...@buffalostate.edu<mailto:ken...@buffalostate.edu>> wrote:
It may have improved since we last used it.  Our failure rate was around 20% so 
we had to drop it as it was impacting production.  At the time this was on a 
Server 2008R2 box.  WDS has I am sure has been updated a bit on Server 2012.

Mark Kent (MCP)
Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State

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[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com>] 
On Behalf Of Chris Barnes
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:50 AM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Setting up multicast

Sorry, need to clarify my statement. I never implemented Multi-cast, my example 
of the 10-12 machines at a time was showing that the default mode scales out 
better then people probably realize.



Chris Barnes

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[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kent, Mark
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:44 AM
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Subject: [mssms] RE: Setting up multicast

Also, if you do choose to use multi-cast you really can’t use cheap switches.  
We tried it with some and they totally choked.  There is some overhead they 
need to process and the cheap switches really didn’t have the guts to handle it.

Mark Kent (MCP)
Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State

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[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Chris Barnes
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 10:45 AM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Setting up multicast

I remember someone had a pretty extensive blog post regarding this (Jason 
Sandys maybe?), making a case that the breakeven for where multicast begins to 
make sense is in the 20-50+ nodes at a time range.

I have been able to image 10-12 machines at a time on a 1GB link with a cheap 
switch (small backplane) with no issues, as during the 30-40 minute imaging 
process, data is only being transferred for a small portion of it. By the time 
you get all of the machines launched and running, where they are in the process 
is usually staggered enough that you only have 1-2 downloading the WIM file at 
any given time.



Chris Barnes

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[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kent, Mark
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 10:35 AM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Setting up multicast

Is your network that bad that you need to use this?  I’ve found the results to 
be less than stellar.  Others said the same thing at the time we tried using 
this.

Mark Kent (MCP)
Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State

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[mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Corkill, Daniel
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 6:22 PM
To: ms...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ms...@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: [mssms] Setting up multicast

I’m looking into implementing multicast on all DPs where PXE is enabled. So far 
I’m reading the following information:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/charlesa_us/archive/2015/06/25/setting-up-multicasting-in-configmgr-2012.aspx
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh397406.aspx

Some questions I have for those who have implemented it:

1.       Are there any recommendations/best practices for the maximum clients 
and transfer rate settings?

2.       Autocast vs scheduled  - I’m leaning towards autocast because my 
understanding is that with scheduled in place, I won’t be able to image single 
machines (unless I decrease the scheduled start delay to 2 mins or something 
like that).

3.       After implementing it, if I’m imaging two, three, four machines at 
once, how do I verify multicast is actually being used?

Any other guidance people who have implemented it can recommend? Any gotchas?

Daniel.




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