I'm going to mention this... knowing there are probably a dozen reasons to reject the thought. If most things are outsourced, and little training in house--perhaps it's time to take an unbiased review of "why do we have CM inhouse at all anymore"--maybe for what you need, Intune solves more issues for you than keeping CM inhouse does.
I'm not saying it'll be the answer to everything--but perhaps a review of current and future needs (vs "we've always done it this way") might reveal that intune is a good fit. On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Burke, John <[email protected]> wrote: > I had it sort of explained to me now. > > > > All of our hardware comes with a license for Windows. So basically we have > a mix of domains with various sccm. Then we have office on every pc and > other products we license individually. > > > > We outsource MOST of our IT support (so we don’t have to train and care > less about innovation). > > > > So at the end of the day – EA costs us money because we are basically > getting little out of it because of the above. That make sense? > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Burke, John > *Sent:* February-17-16 5:32 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > “I have all the details if you want them but basically xxx has avoided > over $35M in the past 6 years by buying out their Enterprise License > Agreement. They were paying close to $6M annually for maintenance. > > > > xxxx avoided $1.7M annually and xxxx was close to $2M.” > > > > It’s pretty hard to argue with that L > > > > Maybe I’ll contact one of those companies below, but I’m sure management > could just say – we saved the money because we didn’t upgrade or take > advantage of most of the stuff in those agreements. > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Burke, John > *Sent:* February-17-16 3:45 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > That is 150% the way management works here. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Jason Sandys > *Sent:* February-17-16 3:44 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > Speaks “Management”, LOL. > > > > IME, the key phrase is “long-term” savings. Many management types aren’t > concerned with the long-term, just the short-term so that they can get > their bonuses for this quarter. I’ve seen this happen multiple times. > > > > J > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Marcum, John > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:34 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > MS can send someone who speaks Management speak in to show them the > numbers. I’d guess that they are probably very badly out of compliance > right now or they would know that they are spending boat loads of money > > > > > * ------------------------------ * > > * John Marcum* > > MCITP, MCTS, MCSA > * Desktop Architect* > > * Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP* > * ------------------------------ * > > > > [image: H_Logo] > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Burke, John > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:26 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > Powers that be don’t that and It’s not been articulated to them in a way > they would understand it. > > > > I wouldn’t be able to explain it either myself why it would cost more in > the long run either. I’ve not see anything documented that would hint at > that either to even put the bug in their ear. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Marcum, John > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:24 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > +1 > > > > To take out an EA for 30,000 users would be LOTS of money. In the millions > of dollars…. To not have an EA and have 30,000 users is probably going to > cost triple that in the long run. > > > * ------------------------------ * > > * John Marcum* > > MCITP, MCTS, MCSA > * Desktop Architect* > > * Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP* > * ------------------------------ * > > > > [image: H_Logo] > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Juelich, Adam > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:29 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > +1 > > > > What he said. > > > > Over the past few years Microsoft has changed several things with > licensing that has usually made it more affordable for companies to have an > EA with SA. You may be able to get this license based on FTE (Full Time > Employee Equivalent) and save quite a bit of money. > > > > I'd recommend working with a company that deals with licensing > specifically to help you get what you want at the best price. We work with > SoftwareONE on that..... > > > > > *-----------------------------------------------* > > *Adam Juelich* > > Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org> > > Client Management Specialist > > 920-822-6075 > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife < > [email protected]> wrote: > > In my opinion, if you’re in a company of 30,000 clients, and you’re not in > an EA with SA, you’re just asking for trouble. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Burke, John > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:10 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [mssms] SCCM and SA Agreements > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I’m here as part of a smaller company that just got eaten up by a large > company that doesn’t have an SA with Microsoft thus, can’t upgrade to 2012 > without significant cost. > > > > I’m wondering how many on this list don’t have enterprise agreements? > > > > I’m also wondering why they are so against an SA because of cost. Are > they that expensive to get for say 30000 system/ users and isn’t it offset > by the tools you automatically get access to via MDOP and so on? > > > > Any input would be appreciated. I’d love to be able to get back to point > that all the sub companies and domains could all get on the same Tech for > imaging, software deployment and so on. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *The Pulaski Community School District does not discriminate on the basis > of any characteristic protected under State or Federal law.* > > > ------------------------------ > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail is from a law firm and may be > protected by the attorney-client or work product privileges. If you have > received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to > this e-mail and then delete it from your computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Thank you, Sherry Kissinger My Parameters: Standardize. Simplify. 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