Thanks Ishai. Does tzunami move everything? Site defs, features, dataview webparts etc?
Ideally it moves only the deltas from dev, to staging then onto prod. Does it provide any rollback? Cheers, Aaron ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 7:30 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments It is aweful for moving between environments, not to mention it is heavy and requires installing a mysql database+apache web server to run. I would not recommend it. Besides, it just moves content – nothing else. If you are looking for something to move content, look at tzunami. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 1:38 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments I found this tool: http://www.avepoint.com/products/sharepoint-content-management I haven’t tried it but it might solve some of the problems. I might have to come up with my own tool and post it up on codeplex J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adriaan Grobler Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 7:26 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments I totally agree. We have a lot of problems with content deployment… Things got worse after the DST change. MOSS is still full of bugs, have a look at the list of hot fixes released. http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/adir_ron/archive/2007/07/11/Huge-list-of-MOSS_2F00_Office-2007-KB_1920_s-and-Hotfixes.aspx Adriaan > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR > Sent: Monday, 5 November 2007 7:41 PM > To: listserver@ozMOSS.com > Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments > > It's great you ask Aaron, because my opinion is that the whole "deploying > between environments" story in MOSS is overly complicated and has severe > problems, see this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9QlojtrWs . This > was all a lot easier to do with MCMS ! You could export content from Site > Manager to an SDO file, and easily setup a new MCMS web application, and move > the SDO content to the new environment. > > > >> provision/manage releases between environments? > > Use a Solution to deploy a custom site definition and its features to the new > server, but when you create a new site collection on the new server, this > simply creates a new empty shell of a site with none of your content, so you > then need to do a Site Collection Backup / Restore over it to get your latest > content in. > If your site has un-published items then they won't make it across to the new > server. Andrew Connell just released an update to his custom STSADM commands, > http://andrewconnell.com/blog/archive/2007/10/29/My-MOSS-WCM-STSADM-custom-commands-have-been-updated.aspx > one of the commands is PublishAllItems, you need to run this over your site > before backup otherwise items not checked-in will mysteriously disappear. > > > >> customised site with custom features and custom site defs > > Deploy your custom site definition and features using a SharePoint Solution. > > > >> How do you move site content between these environments as well? > > Site Collection Backup and Restore, it's not fool proof and I don't trust it > most of the time, but it does the job. I try to minimize this process as much > as possible because I find files and items seem to go randomly missing from > the site, you then have a team of content authors complaining about their > lost images and screwed up content. > > > >> Any tools etc you use ? Any tips etc? > > We developed a nice WinForms tool(Object Model Code) in-house with a simple > Wizard interface. You specify an existing Web Application, the tool deletes > the top level site collection in the web app, it then retracts the previous > solution, removes/uninstalls Features, redeploys the new Solution, including > Custom Site Definition Files and All Features, then it creates a fresh new > Site Collection on the Web App for you. > > This roles-up half-a-dozen steps into one single installer application that > is quick and easy to run. > > A Batch file(STSADM Commands) works just as nicely, it's worth having > something like this to run to automate the whole process and help cut-down > the number of steps and time taken to run through it all. > > > > > That's it... Not a great story, very messy, but that's what we all have to > work with I guess, it would be great to hear other opinions and stories on > this, I want to learn more to stream-line our deployment processes here. > > Just like Aaron, I too would like to learn how others managed all of this in > their environment(s). > > > So Everyone Please Share! > > > Sezai Kömür > Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski > Sent: Monday, 5 November 2007 3:32 PM > To: listserver@ozmoss.com > Subject: [OzMOSS] Deploying between environments > > Dear All, > I have a question more out of curiosity than anything else. > How do you (as in you in your're organisation) provision/manage releases > between environments? Ie dev - stage - prod > Also if you have a customised site with custom features and custom site defs > manage the deployment between environments? > How do you move site content between these environments as well? > Any tools etc you use ? Any tips etc? > > I wanted to get an idea on how others managed this in their environment(s). > > I have been getting asked this by many people of late and wanted to see how > others tackled this problem. > > > Cheers > Aaron > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list > with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. > Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list > with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. > Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list > with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. > Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. 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