Judit, I'm running off to bed now. I like your idea of discussing the build process, I'll add some words to the press release about it in ~ 12 hours, if you don't write it first.
I want to send out the press release within 24 hours, otherwise we are going to run out of time. I would like to resolve people's concerns about naming, but I think that needs to be addressed after the press release goes out. (I don't see it as a blocking issue, and not getting started on the next release would become a blocker soon). I'll send the press release to discuss, and project leaders. Feel free to forward onto others you think should receive it too. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Judit Mays <[email protected]> wrote: > thank you, Alex, for your explanation. > > I especially appreciate the thoughts on getting OSGeo projects to > provide their software as (ubuntu/debian) packages. I see the value for > the GISVM/LiveDVD build process as well as for the project itself. > > May be this should be added to the press release? May be this should > also be discussed in or brought to attention of a broader audience? > Incubation list? OSGeo discuss? (I am unsure, as I am still trying to > get to know the OSGeo way of doing things.) > > Kind regards, > Judit > > > Alex Mandel schrieb: > > That might be a good way to go about naming, a best of both worlds. > > That's part of why I suggested this would be release 2.5, saving the 3.0 > > goodness or whole numbers for conference releases. .5 could still be a > > major release though as Firefox has proven. > > > > I don't think we had decided at all what our release strategy would be. > > Nor am I aware of any formal process to do so. The current suggestion > > for work on the next release comes from my specific needs for the > > conference season. If we wanted to just do a bugfix release that would > > be an option. > > > > I've recommended the every 6 months as a way for us to help keep up with > > Ubuntu, which our live demo is based on, and as a way to motivate > > projects to make/maintain packages. Creating packages is one of the side > > goals of this effort specifically because it would make adding it to the > > live-demo a one click operation, and would help a good deal of users out > > there with easier installs. Most of the OSGeo projects release quite > > often, so there's no shortage of major new innovations coming out all > > the time, and that's one of our strongest selling points. I actually see > > projects needing to put less effort into the live demo over time as long > > as they maintain deb/ubuntu packages, in fact they might not have to do > > any additional work at all. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > > Judit Mays wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I would like to mention the German speaking FOSSGIS conference [1], > >> March 2nd-5th 2010. I assume this might be too soon for the next > >> OSGeo-Disc (version 3.0)? > >> > >> I agree with Hamish to first solve the naming problem before a press > >> release. I also favour Cameron's intention to inform people before > >> season vacation. > >> > >> When I joined this list in mid year, I thought Arramagong was a cool > >> name for a conference handout in Australia. At that point I didn't know > >> about the GISVM/LiveDVD project's broader approach, and I am still not > >> sure about all aspects to it... > >> > >> I thought Arramagong was a release name, like Karmic Koala is for Ubuntu > >> 9.10. And I thought this a perfect idea, to have a release name that > >> suits the conference hosting country so well as does Arramagong. > >> > >> May be this might help to find a naming for the future? Even if it was > >> just a misunderstanding on my side, it might be a common > >> misunderstanding? Therefore I would suggest the regular standard name to > >> be fairly "boring" (technical, matter of factly) and add a touch of > >> spices with the yearly conference location giving some local touch. > >> "Gaudi" comes to my mind when thinking of Barcelona, and it would match > >> the next years conference logo as well. But please come up with > >> something else all together if you feel inspired... > >> > >> By the way, I seem to miss discussions on the projects contents like: > >> when did you guys talk about and decide that there should be 2 major > >> releases each year? My impression from the mails on this list was a > >> drift towards one major release towards FOSS4G and another minor half a > >> year later. I am wondering where these decisions are made and by whom? I > >> am just interested in the decision process. > >> > >> Don't get me wrong. I am not overly interested to have it this way or > >> that. There might be ups and downs for both ways. > >> > >> Some downs for two major releases from my perspective are: > >> * it would weaken my splendid idea of a conference-special-spicy-name > >> for the product ;-) > >> * some projects might decide to only update their GISVM/LiveDVD-versions > >> for the annual gathering of tribes (FOSS4G), as the work involved might > >> be too much if you can't find volunteers willing to go through the > >> process twice a year. > >> > >> Happy to hear your thoughts, > >> Judit > >> > >> [1] the only page I found with at least some English contents: > >> http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/wiki/2010/Call_for_Papers > >> > >> > >> Cameron Shorter schrieb: > >>> I've put together a draft schedule at: > >>> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tMRaCwabv7SiIG3moHEfMrQ&hl=en_GB > >>> And I'm interested to hear feedback on whether people think this is > >>> good. Note: I have 6 weeks factored in from Feature Freeze to Final > >>> Release, to allow for testing. > >>> > >>> Alex, I'm interested to know the dates up the upcoming conferences so > >>> that we can ensure we have the 3.0 DVD ready in time for it. > >>> > >>> I also have a draft press release which I think we should send out in a > >>> couple of days calling on projects to contribute toward the Live DVD. > >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_1 > >>> > >>> Again, looking for feedback on this too. > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Live-demo mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo > > -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html
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