Thanks Angelos, that is a good clarification and a welcome message! Barend
On 11-01-13 16:46, "Angelos Tzotsos" <[email protected]> wrote: >Hi Barent, > >We do not plan to remove DVD support, we just discuss the possibility to >grow the mini iso to work on DVD and move the full iso to USB. > >Cheers, >Angelos > >On 01/11/2013 11:13 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> No, I guess steve Jobs didn't like it ;-) >> >> But seriously, putting the LiveDVD only on a 8Gb stick would seriously >> diminish its worth for people who use it in education. You want to be >>able >> to carry something to workshops and courses that you know will start up >> (almost) everywhere, and is not too costly to give away on a regular >>basis >> to larger groups. The DVD image is great for that, and I strongly urge >>you >> to maintain one. >> Which artifact to give away at FOSS4G conferences is another story I >> guess, but please make sure there is an ISO out there to make a useful >> DVD. >> >> Barend >> >> >> >> On 10-01-13 23:15, "Peter Baumann" <[email protected]> >>wrote: >> >>> wow, a Mac can't do that?? I don't even hcarry a DVD drive with me any >>> longer on >>> my Kubuntu box. Space for a second battery... :) >>> >>> On 01/10/2013 11:02 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> But you can start up anything from a DVD and many things wont start >>> >from USB (e.g. my Mac) >>>> -- >>>> Barend Köbben (Senior Lecturer) >>>> ITC - University of Twente, >>>> Faculty of Geo-Information Science and Earth Observation >>>> PO Box 217, 7500AE Enschede (The Netherlands) >>>> +31-(0)53 4874 253 >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Peter Baumann >>>> [[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 22:57 >>>> To: Angelos Tzotsos >>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] "big" data sets on OSGeo Live >>>> >>>> So making the offer official :) - rasdaman can gladly sponsor the >>>>price >>>> difference between 4 and 8 GB for the 500+ sticks needed for FOSS4G. >>>> -Peter >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/10/2013 10:53 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >>>>> Another thing that was brought up was the possibility to use 8GB USB >>>>> drives >>>>> for FOSS4G, which would mean that the mini iso could go up to 4.4G to >>>>> fit on >>>>> the DVD and the full iso (with the installers) would fit on the USB >>>>> drive. >>>>> Can this extra cost be covered somehow? >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> On 01/10/2013 11:47 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: >>>>>> Hi Peter and thanks for bringing this topic here. >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be great to have more data space and perhaps we can save >>>>>> some space >>>>>> if we track which projects use non common data-sets. >>>>>> From the IRC discussion there was a thought to include a >>>>>> hyperspectral >>>>>> dataset so that rasdaman, OTB, OSSIM, EOxServer and GRASS to use in >>>>>> common. >>>>>> Any thoughts on that? Should we play safe with free MODIS dataset or >>>>>> is there >>>>>> another suggestion? Would it be ok if we limit this to ~50MB size or >>>>>> would we >>>>>> need more? I know this is not enough for a good remote sensing >>>>>> dataset, but >>>>>> we are short on disk space currently. >>>>>> >>>>>> I liked the idea of using some web services for demo purposes in >>>>>> addition to >>>>>> data included in the disk as long as there is a notice to the user >>>>>> that those >>>>>> are available only with internet connection. >>>>>> >>>>>> About projects mentioned: >>>>>> MapGuide is actually not included in the disk due to that large >>>>>> footprint >>>>>> (caused by mono dependency). >>>>>> Marble in large because its dependencies for Qt bring in large parts >>>>>> of the >>>>>> KDE libraries. >>>>>> >>>>>> We definitely need to hear more from the projects on this! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Angelos >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi listers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as space is running short on the ISO we need to reconsider sizings. >>>>>>> In >>>>>>> today's OSGel Live chat I was tasked to initiate this discussion. >>>>>>> Current >>>>>>> disk footprint of each application is available from >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdGIzd0VLLTB >>>>>>>pQ >>>>>>> VJuNVlHMlBWSDhKLXc#gid=13 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Top riders currently: >>>>>>> - mapguide: 550mb >>>>>>> - marble: 300 mb (includes disk caching!) >>>>>>> - grass >250mb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One way of saving space is to enlarge it (ie, go to 8 GB) which is >>>>>>> unclear >>>>>>> due to some unresolved questions; another one is to deflate unused >>>>>>> datasets, >>>>>>> a third one to share data among applications. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can I ask all those with 3-digit disk hunger to chime into this >>>>>>> discussion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> Peter >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Peter Baumann >>>> - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen >>>> www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann >>>> mail: [email protected] >>>> tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 >>>> - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) >>>> www.rasdaman.com, mail: [email protected] >>>> tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 >>>> "Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis >>>> ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli >>>> destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, >>>>AD >>>> 1083) >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Live-demo mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo >>>> http://live.osgeo.org >>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc >>> -- >>> Dr. Peter Baumann >>> - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen >>> www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann >>> mail: [email protected] >>> tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 >>> - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) >>> www.rasdaman.com, mail: [email protected] >>> tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 >>> "Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis >>> ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli >>> destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." 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