Ian,
Based upon comments so far, I believe that we should certainly include
Iris should be included on OSGeo-Live, such that you can use OSGeo-Live
in your foss4g workshops.
I'm personally think that we should hold off on linking IRIS into our
main documentation until a future release, after IRIS has built up more
of a community, however I'm open to being convinced otherwise.
On 13/06/13 21:32, Ian Edwards wrote:
Thank you all for the comments (and for the offers of support)
The issues that Cameron raises are very important, and as a user of
OSGeo Live I personally agree that each of these points should be
carefully considered.
1. Is the project too specialised for the vast majority of people who
pick up OSGeo-Live?
Iris is powerful and specialised but it also has benefits for the
whole range of OSGeo Live users. Our workshop at FOSS4G 2013 is aimed
at both experienced developers and at complete beginners (e.g. users
who are new to python)
http://2013.foss4g.org/provisional/workshops#W15. In the workshop we
will demonstrate how the underlying plotting library (based on
python's matplotlib) can be used for batch processing of multiple
cartographic plots for any use case.
As a comparison: WCS is perceived as complex and specialist compared
to WMS. Libraries such as Iris have a very important role to play for
handling multidimensional data (including detailed meta data within
the file) from many sources and fit well with both OGC standards and
other OSGeo packages.
2. Is it seriously used outside of UK Met Office?
Massimo has given one independent example of Iris being in use
internationally, his message to the list also shares our excitement
about integration into the OSGeo stack (we have use cases for ncWMS,
GeoServer, PyCSW and ZOO-Project and it's likely that either we, or
the community, will develop a QGIS plugin to provide an easier
interface to the library). The development of the software (and the
LGPL licence) was specifically to enable use outside of the Met Office
and to promote easy collaboration among users.
3. We need to be careful that we don't include every project looking
for a community
I agree with this statement the most. In this case we're not looking
for a community/home – we're interested in integrating with the rest
of the open source stack that we belong to, and in supporting the
community to work effectively with emerging technologies like WCS 2.0
and NetCDF.
4. Maybe IRIS would be a better candidate to join OSGeo-Live in a
future release?
The case will certainly be stronger when we can demonstrate many
examples of Iris integrating into the full software stack. Our reason
for applying now is because a) integration work is already well under
way, but it will be easier (for the rest of the community) by making
the library easily available alongside the rest of the stack, b) we
want to ensure the software is available alongside GeoServer and QGIS
for our FOSS4G workshop – we could make our own live DVD... but it
would be based on OSGeo Live and we'd loose the benefit of having the
library available to other conference attendees who are interested in
the presentations and also the wider OSGeo community.
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Hamish <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Cameron wrote:
> Maybe IRIS would be a better
> candidate to join OSGeo-Live in a future release?
IRIS 1.3 needed 3.3mb of disk space. I assume 1.4.0 is not too
dissimilar, and that the support and demo files don't alter that
requirement drastically.
We just managed to free up 150-200mb disk space (shared libs for
MB-System amongst others), and I will sponsor and take care of
adding an install_iris.sh script on the disc for the Nottingham
workshop if one is provided to me.
you guys can figure out if you want an overview page for it or not
linked on the front page list of projects, but it's a bit of a
no-brainer to me to install the software and a quickstart (linked
or not) in the background regardless.
regards,
Hamish
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