We motored past Charleston two nights ago on our way from Morehead City to Jacksonville. We are now anchored for the winter in Julington Creek just off the St Johns river about ten miles south of Jacksonville Fl.
The poopie problem seems to be the hardest to deal with. Some places just send a poopie boat around the anchorage and suck out each boat. The LectaSan would be a good solution, but I don't know if it would be acceptable even if we had them. Like the valve/lock/handle, one could easily bypass the system, a point not lost the bosses ashore. They could easily simply say "no discharge" of any kind so even a thousand dollar treatment device would not be acceptable. I am not convinced that dumping black water (not chunks of floating poopie) overboard in places that have good circulation (a good flow through to flush the anchorage naturally - like St Augustine does have) is a real problem. I imagine that for every pound of human pooping in the water there are tons of other critters pooping in the water too. I would love to see a real study on the proportion of human vs animal feces loads in a harbor. In addition, shoreside sewerage plants are far from perfect. From time to time I read of millions of gallons of raw sewerage dumped because of "accidents" or sudden overloads of the system with apparently no repercussions. In fact they usually say "Nature will take care of it" in the news and it does. There is no way to insure that these plants are actually doing what they say they are doing, only the plant operators can admit their discharge is not up to specs and they aren't going to tattle on themselves. I have thought of planting a hose in the discharge of the St Augustine plant's output pipe connected to a crab pot buoy and taking samples from time to time. But first I would have to find it. And if I got caught the cops would likely arrest me for some form of trespassing to protect their bosses. It's like having the fox guard the chickens, or cops policing cops. The bottom line is, like gambling at a casino, you cannot win a battle with the people that can make the rules. They will just keep making more rules until they accomplish their goal. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL > [Original Message] > From: jim sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 11/15/2007 10:12:29 PM > Subject: RE: lv-ab: Re: St Augustine problems > > yep, my point (though very indirectly) exactly! > > get a sticker > > never have figured out the head situation. You require me to make it > "inoperable" but allow me to keep the key to make it operable within > reach? WTF? > > Where are you guys located these days? > > I'm ~landlocked in charleston,sc for the next ~3 years, working as an > indentured servant (stock vesting). > > I now have a SeaRunner 34, liking the amount of space aboard, but not > necessarily the layout.... > > Anytime you pass through/near charleston, get in touch! > > jim > Nekkid Joy III > 843-303-2689 _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
