http://www.machinegun.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=599&Itemid=2
 
The article says 'eventual' destruction,,,, the manufacturers literature says 
'use only once'
 
Peter


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:40:01 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: [Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who knowDoes anyone make a 12ga 
flare gun that will handle shot gun shells? That seems to be a logical 
solution. -----Original Message-----From: Norm of Bandersnatch <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 7:26 amSubject: Re: 
[Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who know

Merrill,

The problem I see is that the intruder might be in the cockpit when you
needed to get to the gun.



Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek FL
30 07.72N  081 38.4W


> [Original Message]
> From: Ballantyne, Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 11/27/2007 10:37:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] lv-ab: question for those who know
>
> I'm going to reply to the list because this is a valid topic as far as I
> am concerned if you don't like the topic delete now.
>
> If I were to have a gun on board (I'm not saying I don't) I would
> construct a hiding place for it such that it were perfectly concealed,
> and sealed.  
>
> The way I would build this hiding place, is in the cockpit I would
> construct a  fiberglass cabinet, cut a hole in the cockpit combing
> underneath a large winch (to foil any attempt at metal detection), and
> glass the cabinet in place.  Next I would oil and wrap the weapon in
> foam and insert it and an extra magazine or ammo into the cabinet such
> that It would be firmly secured so as not to move around.  Next I would
> replace the piece of fiberglass that resulted from the cockpit hole, and
> carefully 'glue' it back into place using a small amount of thickened
> gelcoat.  Then I would fair and blend the area so that the joint was
> completely invisible.  
>
> A swift kick to the area will shatter the weak gelcoat exposing the
> firearm.  
>
> Another similar installation within the cabin would also be useful in
> case it were needed before one arrived to the cockpit.
>
> With such an installation I would have no qualms about cruising loaded
> anywhere in the usa (including California), and probably in the world.
> It would be a fair risk to do so anyway- probably less than or at least
> equal to the risk of cruising without a weapon. In the USA the coast
> guard has to have a special permit (with probable cause) in order to
> perform a search which results in deliberate damage to the vessel.  Eg.
> If they suspected there was a secret compartment... or if you answered
> 'yes' to whether you had firearms aboard but refused to disclose their
> location.
>
> In my mind the right to use deadly force against a threat of deadly
> force is inalienable and worth dying and lying for.  'are you armed' is
> a ridiculous question and deserves a ridiculous answer.
>
> On to your other question- it is my understanding that any place with
> qualifying features (usually defined legally as a bathroom, sink, and
> stove)  is a place (regardless of type) that he can store his weapons be
> it a boat or an RV if he can prove he is living there.  This is
> especially true if the individual has no other place of residence.
> Please feel free to dispute this.
>
> I would also steer one away from handguns to a more effective (although
> larger) type of gun like a shotgun.  
>
> I am also aware of a case where a person went to court for carrying a
> black powder 6 shot revolver onto a school premisis and won the case
> since black powder guns are not legally considered firearms.  If you
> stored such a weapon in a sealed enclosure like I described above and
> included dessicant (a good idea in any case) the powder and primer would
> probably remain intact for years.
>
> -Merrill
>
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