Re: [Liveaboard] Weapons aboard

Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:38:45 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
John,

We Americans have only fought one war among ourselves.

If memory serves, you Euros have fought multiple wars among yourselves, that tend to drag us in from time to time.

In fact didn’t you, (“...Europeans appear to be much better suited to diplomacy and compromise...”), fight one that lasted 114 years???

Tom
Atlantic Beach, Fla

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
I just recently joined the new list it seems to work very well, thanks to
all who made that possible. Though I rarely take part in the ideological
discussions that pop up from time to time, I do have a comment regarding the
weapons issue.

 

It seems that most posters to this list are American, and often forget, that
we are a few at least, who do not, and cannot pay allegiance to the American
flag or way of life. We do not support your troops as someone's heading so
boldly encourages us to, and we do not have the same worldview as most of
you have.

 

I have lived in most mid east countries, including Iran and Afghanistan and
Pakistan for more than 20 years, and in each of these I have worked with
Americans and Europeans as well. It is my experience that most Americans are
somewhat "handicapped" when it comes to socializing and problem solving, in
very stressed and dangerous situations. They often resort to threats and
violence as a means of solving a conflict, very soon after the conflict has
developed. Europeans appear to be much better suited to diplomacy and
compromise, which is imperative if one wants to survive in the big wide
world. 

 

Most Americans put hard against hard almost from the get go, and though most
claims to be from "Gods own country" :-) they forget the small verse in the
book they all claim to believe in, the Bible, which says "a soft answer
turns away wrath". 

 

I find this a bit troublesome and rather significant. I would encourage all
Americans Cruising in international waters, to refrain from carrying
weapons, for the obvious legal reasons, and instead try to read a few books
on problem solving and diplomacy. 

 

If however, you cruise in American waters you will encounter mostly "your
own kind" and a Mossberg 12 gauge with a 45 for a backup, seems appropriate.
Maybe throw in a AK 47 and a rocket launcher just in case you need to sink
the Pirate schooner, after you killed everyone aboard, for having the balls
to come within 100 feet of your vessel. ( I knew he was a pirate, I heard
the Parrot :-) ) 

 

I also apologize ahead of time for having offended some of you. By the way
that is another thing that you could brush up on all of you Americans, Humor
and a bit of self irony. A good sense of humor , stirred in with
friendliness and kindness will often solve a good many of the problems that
you encounter out there on the high seas.

 

Regards John 

 

SV FreeSpirit


Subject:
[Liveaboard] Weapons aboard
From:
"John Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:28:33 +0000
To:
<[email protected]>
To:
<[email protected]>

I just recently joined the new list it seems to work very well, thanks to all who made that possible. Though I rarely take part in the ideological discussions that pop up from time to time, I do have a comment regarding the weapons issue.

 

It seems that most posters to this list are American, and often forget, that we are a few at least, who do not, and cannot pay allegiance to the American flag or way of life. We do not support your troops as someone’s heading so boldly encourages us to, and we do not have the same worldview as most of you have.

 

I have lived in most mid east countries, including Iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan for more than 20 years, and in each of these I have worked with Americans and Europeans as well. It is my experience that most Americans are somewhat “handicapped” when it comes to socializing and problem solving, in very stressed and dangerous situations. They often resort to threats and violence as a means of solving a conflict, very soon after the conflict has developed. Europeans appear to be much better suited to diplomacy and compromise, which is imperative if one wants to survive in the big wide world.

 

Most Americans put hard against hard almost from the get go, and though most claims to be from “Gods own country” J they forget the small verse in the book they all claim to believe in, the Bible, which says “a soft answer turns away wrath”.

 

I find this a bit troublesome and rather significant. I would encourage all Americans Cruising in international waters, to refrain from carrying weapons, for the obvious legal reasons, and instead try to read a few books on problem solving and diplomacy.

 

If however, you cruise in American waters you will encounter mostly “your own kind” and a Mossberg 12 gauge with a 45 for a backup, seems appropriate. Maybe throw in a AK 47 and a rocket launcher just in case you need to sink the Pirate schooner, after you killed everyone aboard, for having the balls to come within 100 feet of your vessel. ( I knew he was a pirate, I heard the Parrot J )

 

I also apologize ahead of time for having offended some of you. By the way that is another thing that you could brush up on all of you Americans, Humor and a bit of self irony. A good sense of humor , stirred in with  friendliness and kindness will often solve a good many of the problems that you encounter out there on the high seas.

 

Regards John

 

SV FreeSpirit 


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You know, I haven't been able to read a thing this person writes.  The font is so small as to be totally unreadable.  I guess it's left over from the days when Europeans wrote letters on onion skin paper to save money on postage.  Now they are writing very small characters to save space on the screen I guess.

:)

Jim.
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