I have had Wagner hydraulic steering since day one and am quite happy with it.

I cannot address the "feel" issue as I don't have a rig on my "motorsailer", 
however, my system does incorporate a three-position valve that has "feedback" 
position which allows the rudder to push the wheel, "non-feedback" position 
that does not allow the rudder to push the wheel (this is the position I use 
100% of the time) and a "free" position to allow the use of an emergency tiller.

I had a ram seal fail about 16 years into the game, so now I routinely replace 
them every ten years.

But I really love the hydraulic steering.  There is almost no backlash.  I move 
a spoke handle on my (42") wheel a half-inch and the rudder moves.  The 
autopilot uses a hydraulic pump that was a snap to plumb into the system, and 
we have travelled thousands of miles on it without a problem.

The main installation issue is to have a really solid place to attach the 
hydraulic ram to the hull.  I used a half-inch steel plate with an attachment 
lug welded onto it, about 16" on a side, epoxy putty bedded to the hull and 
then bolted with several 3/4" carriage bolts.

You should also have an arrangement to fit an emergency tiller.

I am not an enthusiast of cable steering.  I find it to have too much backlash 
for my comfort in steering and have had several friends who experienced 
steering failure, most frequently from the turning blocks coming adrift from 
the hull or simply pulling apart.  If you do go with cable, make sure the 
turning blocks are very robust and robustly attached to the boat.



Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek FL
30 07.72N 081 38.4W


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Doc Turner 
To: [email protected]
Sent: 2/11/2008 7:46:20 PM 
Subject: [Liveaboard] Hydraulic Steering


Hi All,

I've been lurking here for a while and I noticed that you people are a pretty 
knowledgeable bunch of sailors.  My question is:  How hard is it to install 
hydraulic steering?  I've got a Cascade 36 with a tiller and I'm getting tired 
of hand steering all the time.  Both of our tiller autopilots have given up the 
ghost and I'm ready to have more room in the cockpit.  So, what's involved?  
How much can I expect to pay?  At this point, I'm just wondering.

Thanks for your time,

Doc Turner
s/v Voyager - Cascade 36
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