Bill, Thanks again. Your advise is good. I am a tinker and I am very resourceful. I am not afraid of rebuilding something until I am happy with it.
My family motto is: Think! There must be a harder way!! Casey --- Bill Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Casey > > The advice you've gotten so far is great. > > If your going for an older boat, consider core > rot and delamination a serious consideration. > > Most older boats were built with lots of > fiberglass but often had cores of plywood or balsa, > some just for the deck, others for some or all of > the hull. When water leaks into the core (as it > will) it rots and gets soft, then the fiberglass > comes loose from the core (delaminates). Eventually > resulting in big repairs or salvage. > > As I looked for my livaboard, I kept my options > open and looked at a huge variety of boats with a > buyers broker. > Three boats that were high on my list included CSYs > 33 - 37 - 44 , Whitby 42, and Allied Mistress 36. > Every Whitby I saw had major core problems with both > the deck and hull. The CSYs and Allieds were built > with no core. CSYs are readily available and > generally in fairly good shape. > > The Allied Mistress I considered buying had a > sound hull and deck, but had bulkheads that were > rotted from deck leaks. After I calculated the costs > of transporting the boat from Florida to New Jersey > and the costs of repair, the CSY 44 I found was a > better buy. > > The CSY I bought needs many upgrades and will > take years to complete due to limited funds, but I > will know her well and enjoy the tinkering. She > needs re-powering, a new Gen Set with water maker > and refrigeration, new standing and running rigging, > new sails and cockpit canvas, and pain. I am > currently upgrading the plumbing to meet modern > standards and adding navigation equipment and a > washer dryer. > > Remember every boat will need new sails every > 5 years or so, major engine work every 15 yrs. , new > chain plates and standing rigging every 30 yrs., and > lots of other maintenance expenses whether the boat > is new or old. Budget accordingly. > > One of the advantages of the smaller boat is > that maintenance, dock and storage costs are > lower. > > Someone said boats whether new or old will need > work, as none meets your requirements and since you > are a tinker and shouldn't go offshore without > understanding most of your systems, an older boat > with upgrades you install will be your best bet. > IMHO > > Bill Wright > S/V Wright Tack > CSY 44 wo > Lying Sassafras River, Maryland > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: casey koogler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:47:51 AM > Subject: [Liveaboard] Opinions and advise > > Hi, > > I am retired and sitting on a small nest egg. I am > in > the market for a liveaboard. I am new to sailing > but > grew up on tugs, know my way around a dock and a > tool > box. I have known kayaks, sailboards, ski boats, > joined a sailing club and took the Basic KeelBoat > class. I've spent the last 4years online looking. > > I went to an openhouse at Sailing Life here in > Portland Oregon yesterday and talked briefly with an > old salt salewoman. Her advise was to buy the boat > I > will be wanting to use for the next 5 years and take > the time to learn how to run her. Big isn't hard. > > I am a bottom feeder. I want to keep it under $70K > but 42 to 55 feet. I also want as many whistles and > bells as I can get, to include a wash/dryer and > safety > gear. I'll learn as I go. I've nothing to prove if > I > make it around the world it will be secondary to > just > finding warm water, fun sailing and nice people. > > I am too old for a project boat. > > Any thoughts will be taken seriously. > > Casey > > > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html > > _______________________________________________ > Liveaboard mailing list > Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org > To adjust your membership settings over the web > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard > To subscribe send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The archives are at > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ > > To search the archives > http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org > > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html _______________________________________________ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org To adjust your membership settings over the web http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The archives are at http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ To search the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/liveaboard@liveaboardnow.org The Mailman Users Guide can be found here http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html
