I am guessing I don't really know what it takes to qualify as a motorsailer 
compared to a sailboat with a motor.

I picture a "real" motorsailer to be the MacGovors who brag about being able to 
get up on step and tow waterskiers.  They don't look like they would be any 
good as a ski tug nor a good sailboat.

One old broker told me a motorsailer is a sailboat with a motor. . . 

My interest is in sailing and comfort.  Not skiing.

Casey


--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Lee Haefele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Lee Haefele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Boat Search
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 2:56 AM
> My 1984 Nauticat 33, shallow draft model, was a wonderful
> boat, but, it wouldn't sail without the motor.  Other
> Nauticat models did much better and a feathering prop did
> make 33s somewhat better.  The indoor space was terrific,
> more than many 40' boats, the dry, heated pilothouse was
> super.  When it rained, the sailboats read books, we turned
> on the windshield wipers & heater and went on.  The
> computer was dry at the wheel as were my eyeglasses.  
> Passages were on a schedule at 7+ knots, FL-NC was one day
> less than sailors normally allowed, 2.5 instead of 3.5 days.
>  It was somewhat of a calm water boat, which was possibly
> nicer, waiting for wind to sail involves then rougher seas. 
> TEN TIMES more seaworthy than the unballasted trawlers that
> are so popular with only slightly less speed (7.5 knots any
> time, any wind or sea).  The Ford Lehman 90 engine was super
> reliable for the 3000 hrs of my ownership, the power, speed
> and acceleration was unheard of in a sailboat.
> Maneuverability was great with 5kt reverse available in a
> boatlength, this avoids bumping items in a wind when
> docking.
> I now have a 2000 Leopard 38 catamaran.  The original
> quality is very good, however, caulking and plastic trim are
> problems the NC never had.  Space is even better, including
> large shaded outdoor area.   Sailing is great, average
> speeds are down .5-1kt, fuel use is much less.  Mine was a
> used Moorings charter boat with no equipment and many very
> expensive maintenance issues due to heavy charter use and
> criminal covering of fiberglass damage by Moorings. (impact
> damage was gelcoated and polished, never was the structure
> repaired).  The motor/prop combination was a joke compared
> to the Nauticat, but the motors were destroyed in charter so
> I was able to get improvement on replacement.  So...   I
> have a nicer more stable  living platform, reasonable
> motoring of 6-7kt but less in a head sea, fun sailing and
> about 3X the investment.  I steer outside in a plastic
> enclosure that still leaks, I use a big Garmin chartplotter
> instead of a PC.  The Garmin Radar SUCKS, give me my manual
> 1984 Furuno (indoor only) Radar with a dedicated green CRT
> any day.
> I did find room for lots of solar panels and am energy self
> sufficient without a generator.
> I don't have any teak to varnish anymore, the NC had
> about 60 hours of varnish and stain work each year.
> My wife likes not heeling and I like less motion at sea and
> at anchor.
> Lee Haefele S/Vs Alesto, Alesto 2
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:07 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Boat Search
> 
> 
>   Typically motorsailers don't sail or motor very well.
> They are a compromise, and traditionally didn't do
> anything well. For that reason, they went through a period
> of unpopularity as sailing and power boats became more
> highly developed in the US market. There has been a
> resurgence in their popularity since fuel has gotten more
> expensive.  Nordhavan 56 is a new one as is Island
> Packet's SP. They profess to be the best of both worlds
> .Traditional older favorites that come to mind are Nauticat,
> Fisher, and my favorite, Schucker. There are some twin
> engine motorsailers out there and even some with bridge
> decks. Also, you might consider a sailing catamaran with
> good visibility from the salon. Motorsailers and pilot house
> sailboats have always been popular in the northern colder
> climates of North America and Europe. Everyone that I have
> met that has one agrees that they have faults, but seems to
> love their boat.
> 
>   My thoughts are that if you want comfort and are not in a
> hurry, it's a great choice.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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