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Sam



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> We never argue and relish productive debate.
>  
> True Ahmet but a pump running continuously will not sink your boat and 
> draws more attention than a silent one that won't turn on.  On our boat 
> I installed an audible signal that was a ping sound so it was not 
> annoying.  If any of the bilge pumps were running, you could hear the 
> ping and see an LED on the indicator panel to see which pump was 
> running.  You quickly get to know the ping pattern for dock, and under 
> way, and get an early warning if anything is abnormal. 
>  
> Details and circuit diagram at http://www.yandina.com/hints.htm#BilgeAlarm
>  
> I too no longer get the liveaboard posts.  I think the information got 
> lost in my dead computer.
>  
> Ann-Marie
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* ahmet erkan <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     *Cc:* [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:50 PM
>     *Subject:* (T&T: & TWL2:) Re: Reliablity
> 
>     I don't want to argue with two giants like Ann-Marie and Norm but,
>     two switches in parallel might make the situation worse. (reported
>     failure mode at the beginning was "switch failed closed")
>     Four switches may be used to eliminate single point switch failures
>     which makes it not so elegant a design.
>              
>     BTW how does one sign-up to the liveaboardnow group ? Is it a
>     continuation of the old liveaboard list ? I miss all the people in
>     the old list. (ie: Yanni and all)
>      
>     Thanks
>     Ahmet
>     SV8827
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>      > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      > CC: [email protected]
>      > Subject: (T&T: & TWL2:) Re: Reliablity
>      > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:07:38 -0400
>      >
>      >
>      > No, two in parallel will not double, but it will increase
>     reliability an
>      > order of magnitude although the actual real life computation is
>     quite
>      > complex.
>      > If the probability of a switch failure is 1 in 100,000 operations
>     on the
>      > first switch,
>      > and the probability of a failure on the second switch is 1 in
>     100,000
>      > operations,
>      > the probability that both failures will happen AT THE SAME TIME
>     is 1 in
>      > 10,000,000,000.
>      > This is a gross simplification but demonstrates the approach.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      >
>      > Ann-Marie Foster,
>      > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>      >
>      > ----- Original Message -----
>      > From: "Norm of Bandersnatch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      > Cc: "A LiveAboardList" <[email protected]>
>      > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:53 AM
>      > Subject: Reliablity
>      >
>      >
>      > >
>      > > Wouldn't two in parallel simply double the reliability?
>      > >
>      > > Norm
>      > > S/V Bandersnatch
>      > > Lying Julington Creek
>      > > 30 07.695N 081 38.484W
>      > >
>      > >
>      > > Get two and put them in parallel for 10 times the
>      > >> reliability if you're still paranoid.
>      > >
>      > >
>      >
>      >
>      >
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S/V Lady of the Lake
PDQ 36, Hull #15
Melbourne, FL

S/V Stories She Could Tell
Endeavour 37, Hull #454
Destroyed by Hurricane Frances 2004
Reborn and sailing again in 2007

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