I suppose barges are so poorly lit because there is really no good way 
available to light them.

I imagine they use running lights powered by dry cell batteries.  Not only do 
they cost money, the way they know if they need changing is when the lights 
fade out, and then they can't get to the barge to change them.

The only reliable portable lights I can recall are the highway signs around 
construction areas.  They used to be all engine driven but I have seen lately 
some with solar panels.

A solar panel driven system might work but the PV array would have to be large 
to collect enough power, even during a dark, cloudy day, for a 14 hour night 
run, perhaps even a daytime operation in rain or fog.  

LED lamps with Lithium batteries might work too if set up with adequate 
batteries for many days of operations and an auto switch over to a second set 
of batteries perhaps occulting the lights to let everyone know it is on the 
second set of batteries.

But the only real effect would be from USCG citations in amounts greater than 
the cost of running with legal lights.


Norm
S/V Bandersnatch
Lying Julington Creek
30 07.695N 081 38.484W



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Noel Russell 
To: [email protected]
Sent: 10/27/2008 3:06:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Barges Old(Anchor Light Location)


 there is NO excuse for lights being off either!\
Noel

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-----Original Message-----
From: 'bella 
Sent: Fri, 17 October 2008 11:07:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Barges Old(Anchor Light Location)


Back in early 2004... the Boat US tow guy who kept his boat in my marina.. left 
Cortez fla
to pull someone off of Mullet key.. long story.. in any case... 
on his trip back... He saw the tug all lit up.... the barge in tow was NOT lit 
up... 
He let the tug pass then cut behind it... he had just enough time to duck as 
the tow line sliced the 
top of his cabin off just a few inches above the deck...   The entire marina, 
all 15 boats and owners
turned out the next morning (we were all liveaboards anyway) to gape at the 
damage and 
offer condolences to the Finny.. scary stuff... just proves how easy it is, 
even for someone
as experienced as that to get hurt but someone not following the rules.. 

My prime sailing ground from 2000 to early 2005 was SW Fla and I hope it will 
be again soon..
I cannot count the times 5-10 miles offshore I would run past a boat with NO 
running lights at night.
and NO VHF on... that irritates me even more.. the working premise is to save 
battery, you can look around
IF you see a boat, then flip the lights on.. I don't agree but I have been told 
that many times... but there is NO 
excuse to NOT have your VHF on..  


On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lew Hodgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Norm of Bandersnatch" wrote:

> Flashing yellows are also used on the bow of barges under tow.  I have
> also
> seen flashing yellows and flashing whites on fixed objects.  So there
> is
> little consistency here.  I endeavor to identify them on the chart and
> generally avoid them.

SFWIW:

A couple of weeks ago,the brother of the Sanchez sisters (U S Congress
women), and his girl friend left Los Angeles harbor about midnight
headed for Catalina Island, 26+ miles of open ocean, in a 26 ft
Bayliner.

There was little moon light.

There didn't make it.

The boat containing the bodies was found turtled in about 150 ft of
water, about 5 miles from harbor.

A tug towing a barge with an 1,100 ft hawser was operating in the area.

It is assumed the Bayliner hit the barge.

I have been on a boat this time of year, headed for Catalina under
similar conditions.

It can be a little scary.

I tend to be a little paranoid under those conditions, but I treat tug
boats as if they were my sworn enemy whose sole purpose was to sink me
and give them a VERY WIDE berth.

Haven't been hit yet.

YMMV

Lew


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