Steve Weinstein
S/V CAPTIVA
1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376
Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY
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----- Original Message -----
From: 'bella
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Test - Anyone There?
Well from about Mid January to the End of April being out ON the Gulf is not
the wisest course... it is a wide shallow bay to to speak and the waves.. are
NOT like the Atlantic.
You truly have to time your time out there by the fronts that come thru... A
good rule of thumb is to watch what is in New Orleans.. it will hit St Pete
roughly 24 hrs later.. roughly...
IF you have to leave to go from point A to B... time it so that the second
the front has passed you can make your turned to go wherever and use the winds
to push you along... however going out into the middle of the gulf of mexico in
winter after a storm can be foolhardy.
One weather deal that NOAA won't mention in thier broadcasts is that from
about Mid December to the end of February we get cold fronts that march down
the peninsula, stall over the Straits of Florida and then come back north as a
warm front.. and slam into a cold front somewhere from the Keys to North Fla...
the resulting weather is heinous in its nastyness. It's how we get those
tornados that get reported in jan/feb every yr..
The sailing between fronts is glorious however.. those sunny clear, almost
warm days... it is tourist season in the keys so the prices are up...
please to note...when the coasties put out small craft warnings... they mean
exactly that.. up here in the Chessie, that means there is wind on the bay...
heed those warnings..
Did you mention going from fla to mexico? hop off from key west...swing
down south towards cuba (and have a chat with the coasties for being so close
while you are at it) and then head up towards Isla Mujeres.. Watch out for
reefs... Belize has the 2nd longs living coral reef on the planet and it is not
dying.. 186 miles of it..
Here are a few websites that might be of interest to some...
Nat'l Data Bouy Center... you can click on any bouy on the globe and see the
conditions around it.. I canot count the times I heard
'the C man bouy 100 miles off Venice fla wave ht 50 feet, wave periods.."
Anything thing.. speaking of data... IN the keys you will hear 'insie and
outside the reef'..inside it means the Hawk Channel... outside its teh straits
of fla that run something like 3000fet deep)... wise man says to stay inside
the reef miami to key west.. do NOT take the ICW from miami to key west unless
you draw under 5 feet and then sometimes less than that..
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/
weather for Cuba
http://www.met.inf.cu/asp/genesis.asp?TB0=PLANTILLAS&TB1=INICIAL
Belize weather service
http://www.hydromet.gov.bz/
http://passageweather.com/
www.southwindssailing.com <----local to fla, sailing mag much like
spinsheet.. it is online for free.. read the letters to the editor they are
usually a hoot.... in the back of the mag will be windroses and such for each
month for whatever area that page pertains too.
I cannot tell you much about nother gulf of mexico sailing.. texas and that
area.. never been that far north.. nothing of interest for me.. my home area is
SW Fla... I can tell you that key west or the dry tortugas to st pete is 36
hours each way in a 40 footer.. or 40+ in a smaller boat... the Tortugas is
nasty an cold in winter.. NO protection when the fronts come thru.. most of us
who live down there usualy go after may 1 simply due to the distance and the
potential for crappy weather and all that..
Swash channel north side of Boca Grande that comes and goes...another one
just north of Egmont Key on the NW chanel locals use them to cut thru to avoid
having to go way the heck out to sea to get around the rocks... rocks on the
north end of ana maria island that extend out about 5 miles...IF you are going
up or down the GICW from the Manatee River resist the temptation to cut any
corners short.... if you do, Capn Finn has the boat us franchise to tow... tell
him bella said hi... be very very careful lof the bridge tender at longboat
pass.. she has a tendency to drop the bridge to soon and more than a few masts
have been scrunched ... it would ruin your visit to the sunshine state...
NEVER tell anyone you are a liveaboard.. esp the cops, state, local,
coasties... you are simply a cruiser passsing thru.. keep your head thru hulls
shut at all times... inspections come out of the blue these days... and the
keys are a NO discharge zone... they enforce it.. do not be surprised at a
random middle of the night bording in the keys in jan.. its thier tradition to
route you out of bed at 1am rummage thru your boat, run background checks on
you and then leave...they have to justify all that homeland security money
somehow and we are evil terrorists boaters.. of course all you vets out
there... well, since Janet from the planet exposed you for the terrorists that
you are.. well.... (she says tongue firmly in cheek)... I know I have forgotten
something.. if you want to know more ask specifics.. my brain is not entirely
cafienated at the moment..
'bella
aboard sv maja
working on sv to be named later.. she keeps telling me she is named
Evangeline.. but I keep telling her it won't fit the transom.. Fred looks
better.. :P
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Philip R. McGovern
<[email protected]> wrote:
'bella:
No, we don't know much about the winter weather in the Gulf of Mexico,
although we are somewhat familiar with winter on the East coast and in the
Bahamas. Since others may be interested in the Gulf, why don't you share your
local knowledge on here?
No matter how bad winter is on the Gulf, it can't be as bad as it is here
in Indiana. Also, any advice you might have regarding the oil rigs would be
very helpful. Many thanks!
Phil
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:18 AM, 'bella <[email protected]> wrote:
Phil... you ARE aware that the Gulf of Mexico is not in the same galaxy
as benign during the winter? YOu must be very very careful about your weather
windows..
If you are not familiar with Gulf weather and fla weather in the winter..
send me email back channel.. having grown up as a gulf coasters I do have local
knowledge that NOAA does not advise boaters off.. or if you and all prefer I
can mention it here..
'bella..
sv maja
sv am working on a name decision.. lol..
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Sam Densler <[email protected]> wrote:
Tell us when you are coming through. Not sure when we will return,
probably late October. But the trip in the opposite direction is long
pushing against the gulf stream. We usually cross the okeechobee
waterway in that direction.
Sam
Philip R. McGovern wrote:
> Sam:
>
> That sounds like a great trip. Maybe we can buddy boat and do the
same
> trip in reverse in the fall. Our plan is to spend the whole winter
> exploring the Gulf of Mexico. I'd like to get over to New Orleans
and,
> maybe, down to Cancun. I'm a little concerned about all the oil rigs,
> but at least they don't run you down like the ships do.
>
> Phil
>
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Sam Densler <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Gina and I just completed out Charlotte Harbor, Keys, Biscayne
Bay,
> Offshore to Ft. Pierce and on to Melbourne trip. Had a great
time,
> great weather, can't wait to do it again.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> Steve Weinstein wrote:
> > I've only been checking in every 4-5 days and also noticed it
> seems really
> > quiet. Hopefully everyone's out sailing??????
> >
> >
> > Steve Weinstein
> > S/V CAPTIVA
> > 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376
> > Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY
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> > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:16 PM
> > Subject: [Liveaboard] Test - Anyone There?
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> >
> >> Haven't seen a post in days.
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> >> --
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PDQ 36, Hull #15
Melbourne, FL
S/V Stories She Could Tell
Endeavour 37, Hull #454
Destroyed by Hurricane Frances 2004
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