On Sunday 19 October 2008 04:44:12 pm Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Hello, > > First off, thanks to everyone for the comments given, they were > very helpful. Based in part on the comments, and upon my own > estimation of the project, I have a proposal to make wrt the > future of the project. > > I'll try to keep it as brief as possible, but here are the > changes to the goals and rules of the project I'm proposing > (comments, suggestions, corrections and questions most welcome): > > 1. Any officially supported and promoted release must not deviate > from LFS or BLFS in any way. > > The purpose of this is to keep the CDs valid as working > examples of both LFS and BLFS. I do not count as deviations > configuration files or custom scripts to ease booting or > configuring the CD. What I mean by deviation is installing > packages that do not appear in either book, changing the build > order for the base system, or using switches that either do not > appear in the books or are not listed as possibilities. A > secondary purpose is that by sticking closely to the books, it > should make development and maintenance of the official CD > easier. > > This limitation will undoubtedly bring up questions regarding > extra functionality that is currently covered in the latest CDs. > See item 2 for that. > > 2. Packages or build parameters/methods which do not appear in > LFS or BLFS, but which will undoubtedly increase the CD's value > to large groups of users can be developed and released in > "unofficial" CDs with the hope and intention that these changes > can be pushed upstream to LFS or BLFS. > > A great example here is i18n. A good deal of i18n support is > already covered in LFS, but there are undoubtedly tweaks that > would improve the CD's usefulness but do not appear in the books. > The "right thing to do" in my opinion, is to at the least allow > for these sorts of modifications in LFS and BLFS. The unofficial > CDs provide a sandbox for building and testing which can improve > the quality and usefulness of the books. > > 3. The main official CD will be a minimal 'Core' CD. Basically > bare LFS with just enough added BLFS functionality to connect to > the internet (or a local network), read an LFS book online, > download packages and render a book locally. > > What is actually included can be discussed and decided upon. > I prefer once we decide that it be somewhat etched in stone, too. > Other features can be covered in item 4. > > 4. Apart from the core, we can have extra "official" and > "unofficial" packages which can be added to the core to produce > an individual, custom CD. The difference between "official" and > "unofficial" has to do with whether or not the package is > included in BLFS and is built by-the-book. > > The extent to which we have and provide external packages is > based the willingness of individuals within the community to > maintain them. > > 5. The scripts to produce the core official CD shall be rewritten > and shall look to be done via some PM for ease of maintenance and > for ease of merging packages into the core. > > This may sound like it conflicts with item 1. Technically, it > doesn't since LFS allows for a PM, but even so, it would have to > be a PM which doesn't rely on some external libraries not present > in LFS. Something simple based on tar and shell scripts would be > my preference, although if we wanted to pursue something like > RPM, we would have the opportunity to do so in an unofficial CD. > > I would hope that by following the above, we would achieve solid, > stable CDs, a more unified project as a whole, an 'easy to jump > in' sort of framework which can allow for testing of experimental > ideas and pushing up the quality of all books. > > That's basically it... thoughts? > > -- > JH
I am new to LFS. Just got on the list about 3 days ago. I am glad to see the LiveCD is going to still be here and I think your suggestions sound straight forward. I have joined several of the lists and have seen a lot of activity. Is the New book and LiveCD about to come out? -- Jack Gates -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/livecd FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
