I used the ExtJS framework (of Sencha) back in 2007 around the time Project
Flair (now Lively) was announced. It is well designed but does not have the
same vision as Lively: direct manipulation and vectors. ExtJS abruptly
changed their license in 2008 which led to some revolt. A couple of weeks
ago ExtJS renamed themselves to Sencha and also brought in the RaphaelJS SVG
framework and a touch framework.

Many of the subscribers on this mailing list have more of a background
focusing on Smalltalk and Squeak than with web development. So I do think
it's beneficial that we increase awareness and discuss what already exists
out there in web toolkit land.

Philip

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Steve Wart <[email protected]> wrote:

> Licensing looks complicated, but it seems they've specifically tried to
> make it compatible with non-GPL projects. Is BSD the same as MIT?
>
> But then I'm confused about the $219 developer license.
>
> Should be fun to play with though. There's also http://www.phonegap.com/which 
> is not a UI framework, but they provide a Javascript API to some of
> the more proprietary device features (e.g. camera and accelerometer) -- it's
> for local deployment, not web-based, but it's just serving up local
> resources from your device.
>
> One nice thing about these guys is they provide simulators for a variety of
> mobile devices. The simulator code is also open-source.
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Dan Ingalls <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Folks -
>>
>> Check this out. Very close to an HTML app store.
>>
>>        http://www.sencha.com
>>
>> Could be fun to Lively Up this one ;-)
>>
>>        - D
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