Hi, Dan --

Yes, we discussed that before and I agree, for using applications written in 
Lively this is not desirable. However, when developing this proofed to be 
*very* useful. It can be really annoying to not notice errors during 
development and then maybe publish something that is not working correctly.

One solution is to introduce a proper per-user preferences. We introduced per 
user config modules a while ago but they are not really being used (because 
they are not really documented…). But based on them we could easily implement 
preferences that could then also be accessed/modified using UI/Parts inside 
Lively. This would solve the show-or-show-not error problem, I guess.

Best,
Robert


On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Dan Ingalls wrote:

> Hi Ted, Robert, Jens and all -
> 
> I too am bothered by the completely disruptive blood red text that, as often 
> as not, is showing me someone else's problem.  It sure doesn't play well in 
> demos.
> 
> In LK1 we had a very nice feature which was a transcript window that showed 
> the console messages.  This allowed you to read the messages as long as you 
> wish, let you see them without having to open browser tools and change 
> windows, let you easily cut/paste/eval and especially do a -find- operation 
> on any of the text, all almost for free (ie, a tiny amount of code).  This, 
> and an LK debugger (and changeSets ;-) would catapult us to a higher level of 
> productivity.
> 
>  - Dan
> ---------------
> On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Robert Krahn wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Ted --
>> 
>> when you click on error messages they will stay and every error message is 
>> also printed to the browser console.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:11 AM, Ted Kaehler wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks,
>>>     I like the fact that I can ignore most errors and keep 
>>> working.  However, the red scrolling list of errors is not helping 
>>> me.  It disappears before I have a chance to read it.
>>> 
>>> How about a button that lets me keep the error window?
>>> 
>>> Or, a button that opens the browser Javascript Console (and makes it 
>>> be the minimum size at the bottom)?
>>> 
>>> --Ted.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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