I think we could think of five levels of eh_frame information:

1 unwind instructions at exception throw locations & locations where a callee 
may throw an exception

2 unwind instructions that describe the prologue

3 unwind instructions that describe the epilogue at the end of the function

4 unwind instructions that describe mid-function epilogues (I see these on arm 
all the time, don't see them on x86 with compiler generated code - but we don't 
use eh_frame on arm at Apple, I'm just mentioning it for completeness)

5 unwind instructions that describe any changes mid-function needed to unwind 
at all instructions ("asynchronous unwind information")


The eh_frame section only guarantees #1.  gcc and clang always do #1 and #2.  
Modern gcc's do #3.  I don't know if gcc would do #4 on arm but it's not 
important, I just mention it for completeness.  And no one does #5 (as far as I 
know), even in the DWARF debug_frame section.

I think it maybe possible to detect if an eh_frame entry fulfills #3 by looking 
if the CFA definition on the last row is the same as the initial CFA 
definition.  But I'm not sure how a debugger could use heuristics to determine 
much else.


In fact, detecting #3 may be the easiest thing to detect.  I'm not sure if the 
debugger could really detect #2 except maybe if the function had a standard 
prologue (push rbp, mov rsp rbp) and the eh_frame didn't describe the effects 
of these instructions, the debugger could know that the eh_frame does not 
describe the prologue.




> On Jul 30, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Tong Shen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ah I understand now.
> 
> Now prologue seems always included in CFI fro gcc & clang; and newer gcc 
> includes epilogue as well.
> Maybe we can detect and use them when they are available?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Jason Molenda <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ah, it looks like gcc changed since I last looked at its eh_frame output.
> 
> It's not a bug -- the eh_frame unwind instructions only need to be accurate 
> at instructions where an exception can be thrown, or where a callee function 
> can throw an exception.  There's no requirement to include prologue or 
> epilogue instructions in the eh_frame.
> 
> And unfortunately from lldb's perspective, when we see eh_frame we'll never 
> know how descriptive it is.  If it's old-gcc or clang, it won't include 
> epilogue instructions.  If it's from another compiler, it may not include any 
> prologue/epilogue instructions at all.
> 
> Maybe we could look over the UnwindPlan rows and see if the CFA definition of 
> the last row matches the initial row's CFA definition.  That would show that 
> the epilogue is described.  Unless it is a tail-call (aka noreturn) function 
> - in which case the stack is never restored.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jul 30, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Tong Shen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > GCC seems to generate a row for epilogue.
> > Do you think this is a clang bug, or at least a discrepancy between clang & 
> > gcc?
> >
> > Source:
> > int f() {
> >       puts("HI\n");
> >       return 5;
> > }
> >
> > Compile option: only -g
> >
> > gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1)
> > clang version 3.5.0 (213114)
> >
> > Env: Ubuntu 14.04, x86_64
> >
> > drawfdump -F of clang binary:
> > <    2><0x00400530:0x00400559><f><fde offset 0x00000088 length: 
> > 0x0000001c><eh aug data len 0x0>
> >         0x00400530: <off cfa=08(r7) > <off r16=-8(cfa) >
> >         0x00400531: <off cfa=16(r7) > <off r6=-16(cfa) > <off r16=-8(cfa) >
> >         0x00400534: <off cfa=16(r6) > <off r6=-16(cfa) > <off r16=-8(cfa) >
> >
> > drawfdump -F of gcc binary:
> > <    1><0x0040052d:0x00400542><f><fde offset 0x00000070 length: 
> > 0x0000001c><eh aug data len 0x0>
> >         0x0040052d: <off cfa=08(r7) > <off r16=-8(cfa) >
> >         0x0040052e: <off cfa=16(r7) > <off r6=-16(cfa) > <off r16=-8(cfa) >
> >         0x00400531: <off cfa=16(r6) > <off r6=-16(cfa) > <off r16=-8(cfa) >
> >         0x00400541: <off cfa=08(r7) > <off r6=-16(cfa) > <off r16=-8(cfa) >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Jason Molenda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm open to trying to trust eh_frame at frame 0 for x86_64.  The lack of 
> > epilogue descriptions in eh_frame is the biggest problem here.
> >
> > When you "step" or "next" in the debugger, the debugger instruction steps 
> > across the source line until it gets to the next source line.  Every time 
> > it stops after an instruction step, it confirms that it is (1) between the 
> > start and end pc values for the source line, and (2) that the "stack id" 
> > (start address of the function + CFA address) is the same.  If it stops and 
> > the stack id has changed, for a "next" command, it will backtrace one stack 
> > frame to see if it stepped into a function.  If so, it sets a breakpoint on 
> > the return address and continues.
> >
> > If you switch lldb to prefer eh_frame instructions for x86_64, e.g.
> >
> > Index: source/Plugins/Process/Utility/RegisterContextLLDB.cpp
> > ===================================================================
> > --- source/Plugins/Process/Utility/RegisterContextLLDB.cpp      (revision 
> > 214344)
> > +++ source/Plugins/Process/Utility/RegisterContextLLDB.cpp      (working 
> > copy)
> > @@ -791,6 +791,22 @@
> >          }
> >      }
> >
> > +    // For x86_64 debugging, let's try using the eh_frame instructions 
> > even if this is the currently
> > +    // executing function (frame zero).
> > +    Target *target = exe_ctx.GetTargetPtr();
> > +    if (target
> > +        && (target->GetArchitecture().GetCore() == 
> > ArchSpec::eCore_x86_64_x86_64h
> > +            || target->GetArchitecture().GetCore() == 
> > ArchSpec::eCore_x86_64_x86_64))
> > +    {
> > +        unwind_plan_sp = func_unwinders_sp->GetUnwindPlanAtCallSite 
> > (m_current_offset_backed_up_one);
> > +        int valid_offset = -1;
> > +        if (IsUnwindPlanValidForCurrentPC(unwind_plan_sp, valid_offset))
> > +        {
> > +            UnwindLogMsgVerbose ("frame uses %s for full UnwindPlan, 
> > preferred over assembly profiling on x86_64", 
> > unwind_plan_sp->GetSourceName().GetCString());
> > +            return unwind_plan_sp;
> > +        }
> > +    }
> > +
> >      // Typically the NonCallSite UnwindPlan is the unwind created by 
> > inspecting the assembly language instructions
> >      if (behaves_like_zeroth_frame)
> >      {
> >
> >
> > you'll find that you have to "next" twice to step out of a function.  Why?  
> > With a simple function like:
> >
> > * thread #1: tid = 0xaf31e, 0x0000000100000eb9 a.out`foo + 25 at a.c:5, 
> > queue = 'com.apple.main-thread', stop reason = step over
> >     #0: 0x0000000100000eb9 a.out`foo + 25 at a.c:5
> >    2    int foo ()
> >    3    {
> >    4        puts("HI");
> > -> 5        return 5;
> >    6    }
> >    7
> >    8    int bar ()
> > (lldb) disass
> > a.out`foo at a.c:3:
> >    0x100000ea0:  pushq  %rbp
> >    0x100000ea1:  movq   %rsp, %rbp
> >    0x100000ea4:  subq   $0x10, %rsp
> >    0x100000ea8:  leaq   0x6b(%rip), %rdi          ; "HI"
> >    0x100000eaf:  callq  0x100000efa               ; symbol stub for: puts
> >    0x100000eb4:  movl   $0x5, %ecx
> > -> 0x100000eb9:  movl   %eax, -0x4(%rbp)
> >    0x100000ebc:  movl   %ecx, %eax
> >    0x100000ebe:  addq   $0x10, %rsp
> >    0x100000ec2:  popq   %rbp
> >    0x100000ec3:  retq
> >
> >
> > if you do "next" lldb will instruction step, comparing the stack ID at 
> > every stop, until it gets to 0x100000ec3 at which point the stack ID will 
> > change.  The CFA address (which the eh_frame tells us is rbp+16) just 
> > changed to the caller's CFA address because we're about to return.  The 
> > eh_frame instructions really need to tell us that the CFA is now rsp+8 at 
> > 0x100000ec3.
> >
> > The end result is that you need to "next" twice to step out of a function.
> >
> > AssemblyParse_x86 has a special bit where it looks or the 'ret' instruction 
> > sequence at the end of the function -
> >
> >    // Now look at the byte at the end of the AddressRange for a limited 
> > attempt at describing the
> >     // epilogue.  We're looking for the sequence
> >
> >     //  [ 0x5d ] mov %rbp, %rsp
> >     //  [ 0xc3 ] ret
> >     //  [ 0xe8 xx xx xx xx ] call __stack_chk_fail  (this is sometimes the 
> > final insn in the function)
> >
> >     // We want to add a Row describing how to unwind when we're stopped on 
> > the 'ret' instruction where the
> >     // CFA is no longer defined in terms of rbp, but is now defined in 
> > terms of rsp like on function entry.
> >
> >
> > and adds an extra row of unwind details for that instruction.
> >
> >
> > I mention x86_64 as being a possible good test case here because I worry 
> > about the i386 picbase sequence (call next-instruction; pop $ebx) which 
> > occurs a lot.  But for x86_64, my main concern is the epilogues.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 30, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Tong Shen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Jason! That's a very informative post, clarify things a lot :-)
> > >
> > > Well I have to admit that my patch is specifically for certain kind of 
> > > functions, and now I see that's not the general case.
> > >
> > > I did some experiment with gdb. gdb uses CFI for frame 0, either x86 or 
> > > x86_64. It looks for FDE of frame 0, and do CFA calculations according to 
> > > that.
> > >
> > > - For compiler generated functions: I think there are 2 usage scenarios 
> > > for frame 0: breakpoint and signal.
> > >     - Breakpoints are usually at source line boundary instead of 
> > > instruction boundary, and generally we won't be caught at stack pointer 
> > > changing locations, so CFI is still valid.
> > >     - For signal, synchronous unwind table may not be sufficient here. 
> > > But only stack changing instructions will cause incorrect CFA 
> > > calculation, so it' not always the case.
> > > - For hand written assembly functions: from what I've seen, most of the 
> > > time CFI is present and actually asynchronous.
> > > So it seems that in most cases, even with only synchronous unwind table, 
> > > CFI is still correct.
> > >
> > > I believe we can trust eh_frame for frame 0 and use assembly profiling as 
> > > fallback. If both failed, maybe code owner should use 
> > > -fasynchronous-unwind-tables :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Jason Molenda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > It was a tricky one and got lost in the shuffle of a busy week.  I was 
> > > always reluctant to try profiling all the instructions in a function.  On 
> > > x86, compiler generated code (gcc/clang anyway) is very simplistic about 
> > > setting up the stack frame at the start and only having one epilogue - so 
> > > anything fancier risked making mistakes and could possibly have a 
> > > performance impact as we run functions through the disassembler.
> > >
> > > For hand-written assembly functions (which can be very creative with 
> > > their prologue/epilogue and where it is placed), my position is that they 
> > > should write eh_frame instructions in their assembly source to tell lldb 
> > > where to find things.  There is one or two libraries on Mac OS X where we 
> > > break the "ignore eh_frame for the currently executing function" because 
> > > there are many hand-written assembly functions in there and the eh_frame 
> > > is going to beat our own analysis.
> > >
> > >
> > > After I wrote the x86 unwinder, Greg and Caroline implemented the arm 
> > > unwinder where it emulates every instruction in the function looking for 
> > > prologue/epilogue instructions.  We haven't seen it having a particularly 
> > > bad impact performance-wise (lldb only does this disassembly for 
> > > functions that it finds on stacks during an execution run, and it saves 
> > > the result so it won't re-compute it for a given function).  The clang 
> > > armv7 codegen often has mid-function epilogues (early returns) which 
> > > definitely complicated things and made it necessary to step through the 
> > > entire function bodies.  There's a bunch of code I added to support these 
> > > mid-function epilogues - I have to save the register save state when I 
> > > see an instruction which looks like an epilogue, and when I see the final 
> > > ret instruction (aka restoring the saved lr contents into pc), I 
> > > re-install the register save state from before the epilogue started.
> > >
> > > These things always make me a little nervous because the instruction 
> > > analyzer obviously is doing a static analysis so it knows nothing about 
> > > flow control.  Tong's patch stops when it sees the first CALL instruction 
> > > - but that's not right, that's just solving the problem for his 
> > > particular function which doesn't have any CALL instructions before his 
> > > prologue. :) You could imagine a function which saves a couple of 
> > > registers, calls another function, then saves a couple more because it 
> > > needs more scratch registers.
> > >
> > > If we're going to change to profiling deep into the function -- and I'm 
> > > not opposed to doing that, it's been fine on arm -- we should just do the 
> > > entire function I think.
> > >
> > >
> > > Another alternative would be to trust eh_frame on x86_64 at frame 0.  
> > > This is one of those things where there's not a great solution.  The 
> > > unwind instructions in eh_frame are only guaranteed to be accurate for 
> > > synchronous unwinds -- that is, they are only guaranteed to be accurate 
> > > at places where an exception could be thrown - at call sites.  So for 
> > > instances, there's no reason why the compiler has to describe the 
> > > function prologue instructions at all.  There's no requirement that the 
> > > eh_frame instructions describe the epilogue instructions.  The 
> > > information about spilled registers only needs to be emitted where we 
> > > could throw an exception, or where a callee could throw an exception.
> > >
> > > clang/gcc both emit detailed instructions for the prologue setup.  But 
> > > for i386 codegen if the compiler needs to access some pc-relative data, 
> > > it will do a "call next-instruction; pop %eax" to get the current pc 
> > > value.  (x86_64 has rip-relative addressing so this isn't needed)  If 
> > > you're debugging -fomit-frame-pointer code, that means your CFA is 
> > > expressed in terms of the stack pointer and the stack pointer just 
> > > changed mid-function --- and eh_frame instructions don't describe this.
> > >
> > > The end result: If you want accurate unwinds 100% of the time, you can't 
> > > rely on the unwind instructions from eh_frame.  But they'll get you 
> > > accurate unwinds 99.9% of the time ...  also, last I checked, neither 
> > > clang nor gcc describe the epilogue instructions.
> > >
> > >
> > > In *theory* the unwind instructions from the DWARF debug_frame section 
> > > should be asynchronous -- they should describe how to find the CFA 
> > > address for every instruction in the function.  Which makes sense - you 
> > > want eh_frame to be compact because it's bundled into the executable, so 
> > > it should only have the information necessary for exception handling and 
> > > you can put the verbose stuff in debug_frame DWARF for debuggers.  But 
> > > instead (again, last time I checked), the compilers put the exact same 
> > > thing in debug_frame even if you use the -fasynchronous-unwind-tables (or 
> > > whatever that switch was) option.
> > >
> > >
> > > So I don't know, maybe we should just start trusting eh_frame at frame 0 
> > > and write off those .1% cases where it isn't correct instead of trying to 
> > > get too fancy with the assembly analysis code.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jul 29, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Todd Fiala <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Jason,
> > > >
> > > > Do you have any feedback on this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > -Todd
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Tong Shen <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Sorry, wrong version of patch...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Tong Shen <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Molenda, lldb-commits,
> > > >
> > > > For now, x86 assembly profiler will stop after 10 "non-prologue" 
> > > > instructions. In practice it may not be sufficient. For example, we 
> > > > have a hand-written assembly function, which have hundreds of 
> > > > instruction before actual (stack-adjusting) prologue instructions.
> > > >
> > > > One way is to change the limit to 1000; but there will always be 
> > > > functions that break the limit :-) I believe the right thing to do here 
> > > > is parsing all instructions before "ret"/"call" as prologue 
> > > > instructions.
> > > >
> > > > Here's what I changed:
> > > > - For "push %rbx" and "mov %rbx, -8(%rbp)": only add first row for that 
> > > > register. They may appear multiple times in function body. But as long 
> > > > as one of them appears, first appearance should be in prologue(If it's 
> > > > not in prologue, this function will not use %rbx, so these 2 
> > > > instructions should not appear at all).
> > > > - Also monitor "add %rsp 0x20".
> > > > - Remove non prologue instruction count.
> > > > - Add "call" instruction detection, and stop parsing after it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards, Tong Shen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards, Tong Shen
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards, Tong Shen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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