the very first idea i had was to invite someone from other OS project
psycle, qtracktor, ardour, zyna -> maybe not the software suite, but 
software synth
maybe jack-dev itself

the kisckstarter idea i had was not in to going for developers, but to 
propose something new for people/company
the company idea is more like startup and for both cases there are some 
obligations, because of money rise

as for idea i am using enlightenment as Desktop Environment and i'd like 
to make sounds for e, but not the midi or ogg/mp3, with lmms engine i 
can create any instrument and after integration with DE it would be nice 
to export song or sounds set as the desktop theme -> going forward they 
are supported by samsung, this means that this DE can be used for 
android -> mobile device sound engine - that's what i was thinking for 
kickstarter of lmms-project.


On 29.07.2014 13:23, Vesa wrote:
> So, I'm just going to put this out here. The future of LMMS is very
> uncertain right now. Sure we have lots of activity on the mailing list,
> people working enthusiastically on what they can, and that's all great!
> But there are some looming issues that are getting worse as we go on.
>
> The problem is, we're getting to the point where the limitations of the
> current LMMS core engine are starting to severely handicap what we can
> do with the software.
>
> Sure, we can improve functionality - sample tracks, automation, etc. -
> but many things are hard or impossible to do because of the limitations:
> Jack support, RT-safety, being able to integrate with external software,
> reliable live usage...
>
> Paul Giblock had the idea of migrating LMMS to use his Unison core. This
> would be a good idea, if we had the resources to make that happen, but
> currently... let's look at the situation: I currently write about 50% of
> the code for LMMS, and the rest are small improvements - mostly UI,
> build system, localization or small optimizations... and I'm not skilled
> enough to do RT- or systems coding, or to design a new engine for LMMS.
> The ones who do have the skills (Toby, Paul) are too busy with RL and
> don't have enough time to do this kind of work, and AFAIK none of our
> other developers have the required skillsets to migrate LMMS to a new
> core (please correct me if I'm wrong!).
>
> So let's brainstorm some ideas how we can get over this hurdle. If we
> could get a modern, RT-safe engine for LMMS, there's such a huge
> potential that could be done with it - we could really make LMMS into a
> professional-grade DAW that is still easy enough to get into for beginners.
>
> I'll throw some ideas out here:
>
> 1. Kickstarter campaign for a hired developer? Do a kickstarter to raise
> some funds, then use the money to hire a developer to help with the
> migration to a new core. Do we have enough of a userbase that this could
> be feasible?
>
> 2. Try to find a developer who'd be willing to work on this project.
> This has (and is) been tried, with no luck so far.
>
> 3. Try to improve the current engine gradually. I've been attempting
> this, but again, see re: lack of skill in RT-coding. Paul has also
> earlier opined that the current engine is unsalvageable, not sure about
> that but it definitely is challenging.
>
> 4. Google Summer of Code? This might be an option for next year, we
> might want to start looking into this if it's something we want to do.
>
> Ok that's all I got for now. Anyone else have any ideas? Please feel
> free to pipe in, there are no bad ideas at this point.
>
> If we can figure out a game plan, we could then skip the 1.3 release in
> order to concentrate on the codebase rehaul, and present a brand new and
> improved LMMS 2.0 next year. That'd be awesome if we could somehow make
> that happen...
>
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