Hi Everyone, this is good news!
Timo is a MOTU we can contact!!!
Yay!! Now we have someone who we can talk to directly!
This is REALLY good news
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Another LMMS question
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:44:27 +0300
From: Timo Jyrinki <[email protected]>
To: Israel <[email protected]>
CC: Jonathan Aquilina <[email protected]>
Hi Israel and Jonathan,
After Developer Membership meeting yesterday I received my own MOTU
rights (rights to upload to community maintained Ubuntu repositories).
I've now uploaded the lmms 1.0.0 (real 1.0.0, with those two
backported patches to fix crashes etc) to 14.04 LTS stable release
updates queue. I fixed the changelog to be a bit more verbose and
synced a few small bits so that they matched the original upstream
tarball (just README and stuff were not completely as they were in the
upstream release).
It's so sad there were no MOTU:s available for the upload earlier :(
Ubuntu Studio would badly need new people to join the project. I just
wanted to finish this off now that I finally was able to do so. Also
in my future Patch Pilot turns I will try to help Ubuntu Studio and
Xubuntu when needed. Earlier it was very hard to do as I couldn't
upload anything anyway.
The SRU process itself is not too rapid, so I'll explain how it goes from here:
1. The lmms now sits at the "unapproved" queue for 14.04 LTS updates:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
2. A stable release update team member needs to approve it from there.
It should happen eventually, since as explained the current version
has commits from non-stable branch.
3. Then it goes to -proposed updates - this is the next big milestone.
The bug will be updated with instructions on verifying that the SRU is
indeed good.
4. After 7 days in the -proposed updates, if the bug is tagged
verified-done, it will move to updates and everyone on the planet will
receive the update.
The biggest hard to estimate delay is now the acceptance from the
unapproved queue to the proposed updates. After that it will be all
clear in 7 days.
Thanks for your patience, and I hope you are able to explain the
unfortunate length of this problem to all the lmms friends! I did see
a lot of grumpy people around, as people tend to expect things like
distro updates to just work. Ubuntu is largely purely community
project, despite the perception, so like any it only works when
volunteers work on it. Canonical only maintains the main Ubuntu
project (desktop/server/cloud/mobile) and the few apps in 'main'
repository, most of the 'universe' repository is purely in community
hands (this is a bit non-straight now as some of the phone/tablet is
in universe because of time constraints).
-Timo
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Timo Jyrinki <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Israel (and Jonathan who e-mailed me separately),
>
> Sorry, I was again on vacations. lmms 14.04 LTS update is still
> depending on someone with upload rights, including any MOTU (universe
> package managers), to sponsor it from
> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/
>
> Maybe some are skipping it since they're not familiar with it, or
> because fewer people are doing SRU:s. Also it's a community supported
> package so Canonical people (busy with getting a phone for sale on the
> market) with upload rights are also not possibly looking at it as a
> priority, or many are probably don't have time to look at the queue at
> all.
>
> There was a Ubuntu Studio developer who applied for upload rights
> recently but I believe it was only for a subset of packages? If you
> are friends with anyone from https://launchpad.net/~motu/+members ,
> maybe you could get them to upload? It would be as simple as:
>
> sudo apt-get install bzr-builddeb
> bzr branch lp:~israeldahl/ubuntu/trusty/lmms/lmms_1.0.0+stable
> cd lmms_1.0.0+stable
> bzr bd -S
> dput ../*.changes
>
> Assumptions: they trust my word on the branch review
> https://code.launchpad.net/~israeldahl/ubuntu/trusty/lmms/lmms_1.0.0+stable/+merge/225778
> that it's ok enough, and they have environment set up to do GPG signed
> uploads etc.
>
> For things working better in the future, we would really need more (or
> even a) Ubuntu Studio people to work on becoming MOTU so that the
> multimedia parts could be better served.
>
> -Timo, sadly not a MOTU either
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Israel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Timo,
>> Do you know of anyone I can contact to help get this change sponsored?
>> I would like to move this forward if possible. I know you are busy,
>> (and so am I) but
>> I would really like to fix my mistake as soon as possible. I would like
>> this to happen before
>> 14.04.2 actually I'd like it to happen today if I could. I know this
>> stuff takes a lot of time, and the SRU people are very VERY busy. And
>> quality is an earmark of Ubuntu, which is why I think this change is
>> very important.
>>
>> Again, thank you so much for all your help! I have been working on my
>> own project so I have been learning a lot more about what a program
>> needs to be packaged, and how it all works together, so I am glad that
>> this is much easier than it was back around 0.4.13 :)
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
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