hi ceki

(this states my philosophical position in principle. i might put some 
other thoughts which are more a response into another document later. now 
i've read more of the thread, these points have already been raised - but 
i think that i'd like to post them anyway. hope that ok.)

i don't see any difference - in principle - between a manual and a book.

i don't see any difference between publishing a book electronically and 
publishing a treeware version. publishing books on open source products 
has a long and illustrious history both here at the jakarta project and at 
the apache project. so i'd say that publishing a book on log4j would be 
noble undertaking.

for me, the more important question - as far as honour is concerned - is 
how you act after your book is published (in whatever form).

one test would be - how you would act if somebody volunteered to improve 
the basic (ASF licensed) project documentation? i think that it would be 
dishonourable to refuse these improvements.

another test would be - how would you act if another committer authored a 
competing book on log4j? i think that it would be dishonourable not to 
give it equal status.


i personally think that you'd pass both these tests.

- robert


On Thursday, January 10, 2002, at 07:06 PM, Ceki G�lc� wrote:

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>
> Hi All,
>
> I am pondering whether it is possible to earn revenue by offering
> log4j documentation online, a bit like what JBoss is trying to
> do. Needless to say, the log4j API (the software) will always be
> licensed under the Apache Software license and would include some
> basic documentation. However, writing good documentation is very time
> consuming and I'd like to see if I can get paid to do it.
>
> This documentation will be based on the long log4j manual which was
> until recently part of log4j 1.2 alpha3, alpha4 and alpha5. However,
> the latest alpha6 does not include it. This document carried a clearly
> visible copyright notice. It was always copyrighted by me and not the
> ASF.
>
> Do you think this is an honorable approach? Your comments on the
> subject are welcome. Thank you.
>
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