Brad,

I have to say that I like the way LF5 just focuses on being a monitor/viewer
and delegates the receiving of the logging events up to something else.  And
it ties into the event stream in a very appropriate way, using log4j itself.
It has sparked some thoughts in my head, that I am going to propose in
another email message soon.

-Mark

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> Hi Mark,
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> I apologize.  I think I promised you a nickel tour of LF5 a while back.
> Looks like you've dung into it yourself.  Regarding your
> investigations and
> questions...
>
> >I started looking at the LF5 code, trying to familiarize myself with what
> I
> >might need to do to integrate SocketHubAppender support.  It took me a
> while
> >to figure out that there is an LF5Appender that is used to post
> the events
> >to the LogBrokerMonitor instance.  It took me even longer to realize that
> >there is no direct support for SocketAppender in LF5.  Instead it looks
> like
> >one is supposed to run a SocketServer that uses LF5Appender.  I am
> guessing
> >that when I do this, a LF5 window will appear (being
> automatically created
> >by the LF5Appender)?  That is rather clever if I understand this right.
>
> Correct!  LF5 is strictly a visual Appender.  The basis behind the product
> was to give users an alternative destination (specifically a GUI ) for
> logging events.  The LF5Appender was designed to plug into Log4j
> (much like
> all of the other appenders) and create and instance of the
> LogBrokerMonitor
> to display the log records.  Once that was working, we started adding
> functionality to manage the log records (Priority level
> filtering, Category
> Tree Navigation, text searching, etc.).
>
> In the second release we added a series of new features including giving
> users the ability to load log files from a file or URL and having the
> ability to start up the LF5 GUI on its own (i.e. independent of
> any running
> applications).  This meant that administrators could monitor their
> application's log messages remotely. Other features included having the
> ability to save configuration parameters and storing Most
> Recently Used log
> files in a list for quick access.
>
> The final release (added just before the product was donated to Apache)
> included an NDC filter and Priority level color configuration.
>
> LF5 is a pretty dumb beast.   All it does is display and manage
> log records
> (and that's its intent).   You are correct that LF5 has no direct support
> for Socket Appenders( or any other appenders for that matter).  However,
> since the SocketAppender can register another Appender to handle
> the output
> of log records, LF5 can plug in to it and receive any message being sent
> over a socket.
>
> >So, are there any recommendations on how to go about adding support for
> >SocketHubAppender?  What if I wanted to connect a JMSAppender?
>
> No.  If I understand the purpose of the SocketHubAppender, there
> is no need
> to add support to LF5.  If events are being sent to the SocketHubAppender
> and then passed on to all log servers connected to the SocketHubAppender,
> then presumably each of the log servers has an Appender registered with it
> to handle the display of these events.  If that is the case, then LF5 can
> be registered as the Appender.  Or, if a RollingFileAppender is used, LF5
> could open each of the log files either locally on each server or remotely
> from one server.
>
> >What if I wanted to connect a JMSAppender?
>
> We had actually talked about adding this functionality in but held off
> doing so in lieu of getting some higher priority features added.
>
> >What if I wanted to support different types of appenders all appending to
> the same LF5
> >window?
>
> I'm not sure you want to be using LF5 this way.  It is an Appender itself.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Brad
>
>
> Brad Marlborough
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> For Chainsaw, I took the approach of defining different types of
> receivers,
> since Chainsaw acts like a SocketServer and directly integrates the
> receiving of the logging events (it does not use an appender).
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> I wonder if there is not an opportunity to create a new class of object in
> log4j? Maybe create a Receiver class that would receive remote logging
> events and direct them into the "local" log environment, similar to
> SocketServer.  But, they could be created or configured as log4j objects.
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> I'll have to think about it some more, but I would like to hear
> from others
> about how to go about this.
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> -Mark
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