On 11 Jan 2014, at 23:34, Matt Sicker wrote:

Oh neat. I've gotten too used to working for an enterprise that now I
assume all OSS projects have PMs. I know it's not usually the case with small projects (especially ones with only one main developer), but I must
have gotten the wrong impression about Apache. Glad to know!

Thats what got me involved. I like the "meritocracy", as we call it.
Whoever does the things, "leads". If there a multiple people who do the same, we try to build a consensus. Healthy projects are not to shy even build a consensus with the community. Thats why we always invite even non-committers to participate
on release votes and other decisions.

Here is some background info:
www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html

Here are a few of my personal interpretations of this topic:
http://www.grobmeier.de/hey-i-became-a-vice-president-07072012.html
(shameless self promotion, i am sorry)

Cheers
Christian




On 11 January 2014 16:30, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:

Actually, there is a decent chance it will be the GA release.  We are
waiting for feedback from Gary on what he thinks.

FWIW, there is no “Project Manager” here. We make decisions based on
consensus. However, the release manager does get some latitude.

Ralph

On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:



On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:14, Peter McCarthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

I am wondering if there is a GA date decided for log4j2?

Is patch 9 the last beta release, or are there many more beta loads
planned ?

The next release will be an RC release.


The reason I ask is we currently use log4j, however we have found that
in our larger installations where we produce a lot of logging it is not fit for purpose. We want to move to log4j2 and are currently testing our large installations against it. However we cannot put a beta version of log4j2 into our own GA release (due in mid year, however we would need a large lead time to fully test log4j2). We need some indication as to when log4j2 will GA so as we can decide if we can use it or not in our own next release.

Any information would be greatly appreciated on this.

Based on current blockers and critical bugs, if you're not using OSGi,
the current code is pretty much ready for a GA release. I'd like to see an
RC1 release soon, but that's up to the PM I think.
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