+1 I would also like to release what we have now. 

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> On 2014/10/08, at 11:43, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Are we getting side tracked here? Is this all required for 2.1. We got up to 
> RC3 this weekend. It seems we should go to RC4 and then continue on 2.2-SNAP.
> 
> Gary
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So far I've figured out that you can specify multiple classes in a 
>> ServiceLoader file. Each line can have a class. And the order things are 
>> parsed are determined by ClassLoader.getResources() (which I'd assume is 
>> classpath order). This could really use a sort of extension that allowed 
>> prioritizing services.
>> 
>>> On 7 October 2014 21:21, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> It's actually a bit more complicated than I thought. Sometimes, the 
>>> properties are there for overriding the default (usually with another 
>>> log4j-provided class instead of a custom one). I'll have to delve into this 
>>> a bit more.
>>> 
>>>> On 7 October 2014 21:18, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Let me compile a list of example service classes that could benefit from 
>>>> using ServiceLoader. I'll be back soon.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 October 2014 21:11, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, I looked at it and purposely decided not to use it for the 
>>>>> LoggerContextFactory.  I wanted to do API version checking to make sure 
>>>>> what we were binding with is compatible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for using it for other stuff, I am not really sure how or why 
>>>>> ServiceLoader was bypassed. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This was added back in 1.6, and I still don't see it used very often. It 
>>>>>> seems like a more effective method of making customizable service 
>>>>>> classes than all system properties all the time (even though you can 
>>>>>> technically just make a log4j2.component.properties file to set them). I 
>>>>>> think we could use it for simple plugins that aren't log4j-core plugins 
>>>>>> (or even in log4j-core), or we could make a sort of replacement class 
>>>>>> that's similar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you don't already know how ServiceLoader<S> works, it looks for 
>>>>>> META-INF/services/the.full.class.name files which contain a FQCN of the 
>>>>>> implementation class. I'm not particularly sure about the order in which 
>>>>>> things are loaded, but it's certainly useful when you combine it with 
>>>>>> something like the @Order annotation we have and then sort them based on 
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know why we didn't use it for LoggerContextFactory what with the 
>>>>>> additional properties to be specified for a provider. However, I don't 
>>>>>> see why we haven't used it for other service classes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
>>>> 
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