I committed the file watching changes to the LOG4J2-1136 branch. There were a 
ton of conflicts. Hopefully I fixed them all correctly. But hey, it builds fine.

Ralph

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have been working on the file watching of the scripts today. The more I 
> work with it the less I like Java’s WatchService. Java makes no guarantees 
> about how the service works. On my Mac it uses polling - but I don’t see any 
> way to control the frequency. Furthermore, if you specify a file you will get 
> an exception - it can only watch directories for changes.
> 
> As a consequence I am going to use the same logic we use for monitoring the 
> configuration file but turn it into a general service.  
> 
> I would only want to get this in the next release if we are going to call it 
> 2.5. I don’t think any of the stuff that has been checked in so far really 
> warrants that but let me know what you think.
> 
> I think Remko came up with a solution to the ThreadLocal issue we can live 
> with.
> 
> The only other issue is LOG4J2-1140. That is reported to be a regression 
> between 2.3 and 2.4.
> 
> Ralph
> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I looked at the scripting feature at a high level today. Looks good, see my 
>> comments in the Jira. I did not look at the details in the private inner 
>> classes though.
>> 
>> It seems like a 2.4.1 ASAP to fix the compression is important. 
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> I fixed the compression issue (LOG4J2-1135 
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1135>) but I don't think I 
>> will be able to look at the log4j: lookup issue (LOG4J2-1050 
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1050>). About that log4j 
>> lookup: some time ago when working on other issues I did notice that the 
>> context's configLocation property is null sometimes but I never really dug 
>> into when or why this happens. So I am not sure if this only happens with 
>> web-apps or whether it is because the config was not explicitly specified 
>> but loaded from the classpath... I hope someone else has time to look into 
>> this.
>> 
>> The new scripting feature also looks very interesting but since I'm 
>> travelling I may not have time in the next few weeks to give it the 
>> attention it deserves.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Yes, I am. I have a fix and will commit soon. Will also try to add an extra 
>> unit test if time permits....
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Remko,
>> 
>> Are you working on the fix for the compression?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 6:03 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry Remko, I just realized you wrote the message and not Gary.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:40 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> At this point LOG4J2-1137 is just an idea. I have no idea when I would 
>>>> implement it. LOG4J2-1136 is code complete. I just have some. More 
>>>> documentation to write.
>>>> 
>>>> I agree, fixing compression and the property substitution need to happen 
>>>> quickly. I don't know that I care whether the next release is 2.4.1 or 
>>>> 2.5. However I would like the scripting support in a release fairly 
>>>> quickly. I was hoping you and Remko would take a look at it and see if 
>>>> there is anything you would like to change.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:05 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph, both scripting support (LOG4J2-1136 
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1136>) and 
>>>>> buffering-until-trigger (LOG4J2-1137 
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1137>) seem like features 
>>>>> that warrant a minor version increase (2.5) rather than a bugfix version 
>>>>> increase (2.4.1). Is that what you have in mind?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It looks like 2.4 broke compression on rollover (LOG4J2-1135 
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1135>). In my opinion this 
>>>>> is a blocker for 2.4.1 (we really should include a fix for this). We can 
>>>>> also look at the problem with property substitution (LOG4J2-1050 
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1050>) that Adam reported. 
>>>>> Not sure if this is a 2.4.1 blocker, but since it is a new feature for 
>>>>> 2.4 it is a bit embarrassing if it doesn't work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> Can we fix it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> That's because we fixed the site sources after the 2.4 RC was cut...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Mikael Ståldal 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> It seems like some Appenders, such as the new KafkaAppender, is missing 
>>>>> from the menu.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:01 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> It only took about 2.5 hours (it has never been close to that long 
>>>>> before) but the site is now deployed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You’ve never published our web site. It is huge.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:05 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm tellin' ya, doing it all from p.a.o is faster ;-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I am home now. It got some kind of server time out. I am trying again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wow! Still no new site...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Too late now, but I what I've done in the past on other projects, is 
>>>>>>>> login to my people.apache.org <http://people.apache.org/> account, 
>>>>>>>> build the site there, then publish it from there. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Me too. Unfortunately I did the commit from my personal Macbook at 
>>>>>>>> home and I am at work now. The commit had been going for about an hour 
>>>>>>>> when I had to leave.. I will have to check and see what happened when 
>>>>>>>> I get home this afternoon.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> At the moment I still see the 2.3 web site.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I tried again this morning and it seems to be working.  It is now 
>>>>>>>>> uploading to svn - which takes quite a while.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:49 AM, Ralph Goers 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No, I do not use a proxy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:13 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using a proxy? Does this help: 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://rubenlaguna.com/wp/2007/03/07/subversion-error-503-service-unavailable/
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rubenlaguna.com/wp/2007/03/07/subversion-error-503-service-unavailable/>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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