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Joern Huxhorn commented on LOG4J2-1226: --------------------------------------- I'd argue that they still can. Just not if they are using Sockets/Serialization or, for example, a console appender. Serialization is a fragile beast anyway and with the security vulnerability linked above deserializing any arbitrary object simply isn't an option anymore. If such a message is printed to the console then a complex object is converted to the respective String representation, too. My "job" with Lilith is to provide a log viewer. Even if the class in question would be available on my classpath *and* it would have been added to my [handcrafted whitelist|https://github.com/huxi/lilith/blob/master/lilith-engine/src/main/java/de/huxhorn/lilith/engine/impl/eventproducer/AbstractStreamEventProducer.java#L64] of classes allowed during deserialization, I'd still only ever print that object, i.e. performing the {{toString}} in my code. Imagine one could send a message to log4j that would close {{System.out}} and prevent any further console logging. This is the current effect of sending arbitrary serialized objects. I don't say that complex (non-standard) objects as parameters or messages are a bad thing in general. But I'd argue that their behavior with standard log4j appenders should be well-defined and well-behaved while the scenario you described (where people want to receive the object itself) would be a case for a custom appender. > Message instances are simply serialized. They mustn't. > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Key: LOG4J2-1226 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1226 > Project: Log4j 2 > Issue Type: Bug > Components: API > Affects Versions: 2.5 > Reporter: Joern Huxhorn > > Right now, any Message instance used to call any log method are simply sent > as they are. > Instead, the {{Throwable}} must be transformed into a {{ThrowableProxy}}. > Custom {{Message}} implementations must be transformed into one of log4j's > standard message implementations and care must be taken to convert the > {{Parameters}} {{Object[]}} into {{String[]}} before the message is > serialized. > Otherwise, deserialization will fail if a custom {{Throwable}}, custom > {{Message}} or custom parameter is not contained in the classpath of the > application receiving the serialized {{LogEvent}}. > I found those issues while implementing the circumvention for [Apache Commons > statement to widespread Java object de-serialisation > vulnerability|https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/apache_commons_statement_to_widespread] > in [Lilith|http://lilithapp.com]. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org