Isn't BSON only used by Mongo?

On 12 January 2016 at 12:51, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:

> And I'm wondering if we should have a BSON layout, that would also be with
> Jackson.
>
> Gayr
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Keep in mind that we use Jackson so almost all the code is the same for
>> JSON and XML.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Robin Coe <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would be happy to test but haven't looked at the writer
>>> implementations, so speedy would not be the effort.  But, it's a
>>> performance issue only...maybe...so no hurry anyway.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If the reason to do this is performance, it should be proved by a
>>>> benchmark...
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>> On Jan 12, 2016 8:28 AM, "Gary Gregory" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe something like mdcStyle="this/that/future"?
>>>>>
>>>>> This would also apply to the XML layout?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2016 8:26 AM, "Mikael Ståldal" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah yes, that's possible. It would be nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there is a flag that causes the new structure to be generated
>>>>>>> then he would get the performance gain when it is enabled. The current
>>>>>>> structure would be generated when the flag is not set.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 12, 2016, at 9:14 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I guess that you won't get any performance gain if we keep the
>>>>>>> old structure besides the new one, since then both will be parsed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Robin Coe <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that if it were changed there may be some compatibility
>>>>>>>> issues.  But, if it's doable, then introducing a new property could 
>>>>>>>> bridge
>>>>>>>> the change.  Not saying it's doable, because I haven't looked, but a 
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> property and a deprecation warning (in docs, I expect) would allow the
>>>>>>>> change to happen.  Very preliminary data showed me that parsing 1000 
>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>> slowed my parser from < 500 ms (w/o contextMap) to 2000 ms when each 
>>>>>>>> event
>>>>>>>> contained 2 contextMap entries, requiring the list of maps to be 
>>>>>>>> converted
>>>>>>>> to a single map.  Not sure what the time would be to parse a 
>>>>>>>> multi-valued
>>>>>>>> map, though, so I can't be sure of the overhead of walking the list 
>>>>>>>> wrapper.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:05 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that the current JSONLayout format is unfortunate, and I
>>>>>>>>> would prefer to have it as you propose. But we cannot change it now 
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> that will break backwards compatibility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-623
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps GELFLayout would work better for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The point I was trying to make is that you cannot describe what
>>>>>>>>>> you are asking for with a generic XML schema, not sure about JSON 
>>>>>>>>>> schema,
>>>>>>>>>> but the idea is the same. Since we use Jackson, that also means we 
>>>>>>>>>> use the
>>>>>>>>>> same code to emit JSON and XML.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2016 12:25 PM, "Robin Coe" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can see that XML entities requires conforming to a schema but
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't the writer implementation capable of wrapping the map entries 
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> required?  Seems like it's making the JSON representation more 
>>>>>>>>>>> complex (and
>>>>>>>>>>> less performant) at the cost of some wrapper code for the xml 
>>>>>>>>>>> writer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that is because we can define this kind of structure with
>>>>>>>>>>>> XML/JSON schema with ease.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2016 11:55 AM, "Robin Coe" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to deserialize a log event written by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JSONLayout appender, which uses Jackson.  I therefore also am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using Jackson
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but with the MrBeanModule, which is a POJO materializer.  After 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty with Jackson throwing deserialization exceptions with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "contextMap" field, I learned that the map is actually written 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> List of Maps (i.e. List<Map<String,String>>.  I've included one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> such event
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, with unnecessary fields shortened:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {"timeMillis":...,"thread":"...","level":"OFF","loggerName":"...","message":"...","endOfBatch":false,"loggerFqcn":"...","contextMap":[{"key":"LOGROLL","value":"com.xxx.xxx.handler.event.FailoverHandler"},{"key":"ROUTINGKEY","value":"elasticsearch-rollover"}]}
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm curious why the contextMap is represented as the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex List of single entry Maps, as opposed to a single 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-valued
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Map?  So, instead of something that looks like:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> {"contextMap":[{"key":"key1"},{"value":"value1"},{"key":"key2"},{"value":"value2"},...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would expect the much simpler (and easily parseable):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     {"contextMap":{"key1":"value1","key2":"value2",...}.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this intended?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *Mikael Ståldal*
>>>>>> Senior software developer
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