Great! Let me know when you'd be available to do one and I can start arranging this with IJUG.
On 16 June 2016 at 00:08, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I've already asked Ralph and now Gary, but let me pose the question >> openly instead. Would any of you be interested in doing an online >> presentation for Illinois JUG? >> > > I can do that sure. > > Gary > > Here's our meetup group: <http://www.meetup.com/illinoisJUGvirtual/>. I >> did a lightning talk about async logging (and a little bit on garbage-free >> logging), and people seemed very interested. I'm thinking of doing my own >> full presentation eventually on other features I'm more familiar with, too, >> but I might just do those in-person instead of online. >> >> Presentations normally take place at noon central time and go for an hour. >> >> On 13 June 2016 at 10:08, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I've done an in person preso at two JUG in Southern California that were >>> well received. I did not think of recording them for YouTube though. >>> >>> Promoting within Apache and especially new projects would help IMO. >>> >>> I've also seen that folks do not know that Log4j 2 has a new modern >>> architecture with an API. Better text on various sites like wikipedia and >>> our own logging landing site might help. >>> >>> Gary >>> On Jun 13, 2016 7:56 AM, "Matt Sicker" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh, another thing that would help is doing presentations on log4j. >>>> Myself and a few others run a virtual java user group (and an in-person >>>> one) in Illinois that accepts presenters from around the world for >>>> instance. Then there's the London VirtualJUG as well which is super >>>> popular. Plus any local JUGs. >>>> >>>> On 13 June 2016 at 09:54, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've noticed a big problem is that people don't realize you can use >>>>> log4j-api the same way you would normally use slf4j-api. Plus it doesn't >>>>> help that tons of Apache projects are using SLF4J which makes it a sort of >>>>> tacit endorsement of it over log4j-api. >>>>> >>>>> Some attention on sites like Reddit or StackOverflow might help. >>>>> >>>>> On 13 June 2016 at 09:52, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In spite of the fact that Log4j 2 has a very compelling story in >>>>>> terms of feature set and performance, I get the impression that adoption >>>>>> is >>>>>> quite slow. I could be wrong, but how many open source projects use Log4j >>>>>> 2? Or even how many Apache projects? >>>>>> >>>>>> I propose we try to generate some ideas about what we can do to >>>>>> increase our uptake. Some things I've been thinking about: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Rewrite the Wikipedia page on Log4j >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log4j>. It's mostly about Log4j 1.2 >>>>>> and mentions Log4j 2 at the bottom in a footnote. That needs to be the >>>>>> other way around in my opinion. The Wikipedia Java logging framework >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_logging_framework> page is even >>>>>> worse. >>>>>> * The Apache Logging site <https://logging.apache.org/> has no >>>>>> explicit mention that Log4j 1 is EOL. >>>>>> * Only the top page on the Log4j 1 site >>>>>> <https://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/> mentions that the project is >>>>>> EOL, but it does so in two modest sentences that don't visually stick out >>>>>> and are easily ignored. At the very least the download page needs a >>>>>> mention >>>>>> of the EOL and a link to the Log4j 2 project, but it may be good to have >>>>>> a >>>>>> notification on every page. >>>>>> * Can we get other people involved in evangelizing log4j 2? It would >>>>>> be great if we can make more people enthusiastic so they write blog posts >>>>>> or tutorials etc about Log4j 2. >>>>>> * How can we incentivise people to convert their project to Log4j 2? >>>>>> Maybe start a page on Projects Using Log4j 2 and mention people who did >>>>>> the >>>>>> conversion by name? Or some other way? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Remko >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <[email protected]> >> > > > > -- > E-Mail: [email protected] | [email protected] > Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition > <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> > JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> > Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory > -- Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
