I wish we had a better way to gauge what plugins are the most commonly used
so we could trim it down to that in log4j-core, but alas, we can really
only guess. With that in mind, that layout sounds like it makes sense,
though calling it "log4j-db" is somewhat confusing. I'd prefer the name had
some sort of indicator that it wasn't a standalone module as it wouldn't
have any concrete plugins in it.

Also, would log4j-nosql need to depend on log4j-db? Could be a nice
opportunity for refactoring if necessary as they all follow the same
pattern.

On 4 December 2016 at 15:40, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, I have a log4j-sql module split out locally. But it seems we need
> instead:
>
> - log4j-db (commons code, depends log4j-core)
> - log4j-jdbc (JDBC only, depends on log4j-db)
> - log4j-jpa (JPA only, depends on log4j-db)
>
> I would also repackage these out of .core.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gary
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Note the common code in .core.db for .core.db.jdbc and .core.db.jpa. It
>> seems just that little bit should go in its own module or stay in core.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also: package names, it does not make sense to have JDBC and JPA code
>>> under the .core. package anymore. I would:
>>>
>>> Create the new modules with code not in .core. and deprecate the
>>> equivalent in .core.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hm... this is also an opportunity to pick more precise names:
>>>> log4j-jdbc and log4j-jpa
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As for SQL, the JDBC one doesn't have any dependencies, so that could
>>>>> stay in core if desired, but the JPA one does require additional Java EE
>>>>> APIs, so that'd make sense to separate at the very least.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the nosql ones, again, it would be nice to split those up so
>>>>> that there aren't optional dependencies. That would either mean a mongo 
>>>>> and
>>>>> couch component, or it could also mean an additional nosql-common 
>>>>> component
>>>>> (unless the abstract classes were put into log4j-core).
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 December 2016 at 12:44, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts on splitting out SQL and MOM (JMS) into their own modules?
>>>>>> We already have a nosql module, having a sql one makes sense. The overall
>>>>>> idea is to make core lighter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
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>>
>>
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