No wait, the lazy voting thing at Commons is just the same form we use for code, just with an email plus a 72 hour notice. Makes sense for repository changes since those are a pain to reverse once the format is changed to git.
On 7 March 2017 at 23:07, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > The -1 thing is mentioned here <https://logging.apache.org/guidelines.html> > regarding a -1 being a veto for anything consensus-related (generally > anything to do with adding or removing committers/PMCs). I suppose in that > context, a mailing list change probably falls under lazy majority, though > whatever it is we're doing at Commons for lazy votes isn't on that page. > > On 7 March 2017 at 22:59, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Note that generally a -1 is a veto only on code commits. On everything >> else it just means you are against the proposal. However, we generally >> strive for consensus so great weight is given to binding votes that are >> opposed. >> >> Ralph >> >> On Mar 7, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> This is my +1. >> >> If this is the incorrect voting format and we need to do a 2/3 majority >> instead, please veto this and let me know. This situation is not spelled >> out in the bylaws. >> >> On 7 March 2017 at 22:20, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I may be missing some mailing lists considering I just subscribed to >>> half of them less than five minutes ago. >>> >>> This is a vote to merge the various Apache Logging Services mailing >>> lists. The proposal is to combine them as follows: >>> >>> log4j-dev@, log4php-dev@, log4net-dev@, log4cxx-dev@ -> >>> d...@logging.apache.org >>> log4j-user@, log4php-user@, log4net-user@, log4cxx-user@, general@ -> >>> u...@logging.apache.org >>> >>> commits@ and private@ remain the same as before. >>> >>> The proposal would also suggest that the old emails become aliases for >>> the combined email names so as not to lose any future emails. To >>> distinguish between projects, a subject tag can be added such as: >>> >>> [java] >>> [net] >>> [cxx] >>> [php] >>> >>> Though I wouldn't think such a tag is required, though it should help in >>> gaining the attention of the appropriate audience. >>> >>> Voting: >>> >>> +1: Yes, combine the mailing lists! >>> +0: Go ahead, don't care that much. >>> -0: Don't like it, but not vetoing it. >>> -1: No, don't do that! I have a better idea! >>> >>> This vote follows the same "lazy consensus" (at least 3 +1 binding, no >>> -1/vetoes) we use for general releases and whatnot. The vote will be open >>> for at least 72 hours. >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >> >> >> > > > -- > Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> > -- Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>