Hi Greg,

Thanks for such a detailed reply. 

One of my concerns is that LF5 may be unsupported in that I believe that the
authors donated it to Apache. 

I am anxious that a decision to adopt LF5 is a valid long term decision 

Regards
Steve




 -----Original Message-----
From:   Greg Cutler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   11 February 2003 18:50
To:     Log4J Users List
Subject:        RE: Chainsaw vs LogFactor5

We're using primarily LF5 in a number of scenarios
(described below), and been happy with the results in
each case:

1) Local development
Just configured a LF5 Appender in the local config. As
soon as any logging occurs, the LF5 window
automatically opens and you get you logging in
real-time.

2) Remote real-time
There's two ways to do this one: first is to use a
local SocketServer configured with LF5, where the
remote application then uses a SocketAppender to send
the logging events to the local server, where they
will be displayed in the LF5 console in real-time.

However, we are working behind a firewall that won't
allow the incoming connections, so we set up a
SocketHubAppender on the remote server that will
listen for incoming connections. Then we have a little
rig to start up a SocketNode locally with the LF5
setup (I'll send the rig source tomorrow... it's on my
machine at work). This setup also works well for us to
track problems on the remote live server in real-time.

3) Remote off-line
Many of our services also write a log file in LF5
format that we can then load up into LF5 offline just
to spot-check or for historical reasons.

Haven't worked with Chainsaw, but am pretty sold on
LF5.

Later,
Greg

--- Scott Schram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 11:18 AM 2/11/2003, you wrote:
> >Scott,
> >
> >Thanks for the info... Have you always used
> chainsaw or did you convert from
> >LogFactor5 (if so why)?
> >
> >Thanks also for the reference to BugZilla - I
> hadn't realized it was
> >there!!!
> >
> >Regards
> >Steve
> 
> We just got started using Chainsaw, and during this
> development phase it 
> has done what we need.  Chainsaw is not difficult to
> use.  Just start it, 
> and then start your app sending it log entries.  The
> features are simple 
> and obvious.
> 
> I got the impression when I looked at it that
> LogFactor5 was more suited to 
> analyzing log files.  I don't know if it can receive
> messages via 
> socket.  Maybe some LF5 fans can add something.
> 
> Scott
> 
> http://schram.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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