web apps! I now think the more sane explanation is that I was hasty in my offhand reporting, and that the "ton" of output I saw was from JSF, not Tomcat. That would make a little more sense, because all JSF jars are in WEB-INF/lib of the webapp. And, again, as mentioned, JSF was in the mix when I noticed the same kind of copious output under Sun Web Server.

I should set root logger to DEBUG and look more closely at the output.

FWIW, it seems that verbose output I saw was indeed from JSF; I've appended a couple lines below. There's also output from "Digester", so I assume JSF uses that framework to work with faces-config.xml, et al. Cute!

Anyway, all this just goes to show I should leave the root logger well enough alone.

Regards,

--A

[http8080-Processor24] DEBUG com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener - addRenderer(javax.faces.SelectMany,javax.faces.Listbox,com.sun.faces.renderkit.html_basic.ListboxRenderer) [http8080-Processor24] DEBUG com.sun.faces.config.ConfigureListener - addRenderer(javax.faces.SelectMany,javax.faces.Menu,com.sun.faces.renderkit.html_basic.MenuRenderer)

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