Gary, I asked Matt to include a slide like that. I asked him to mention why I started Log4j 2 in the first place - to call out the features that were missing in Logback that I couldn’t get included. I think that is a very common question that gets asked. I also wanted him to highlight how long Log4j 2 has actually been in development - I spent over a year writing the initial core before I committed it to the experimental branch and it has been years in development since then - so from a time perspective we are definitely ready for GA.
But you are absolutely correct that the reason I chose to commit the code at Apache was because I believe in the culture and that there should be no single individual in charge. At the time I committed the code the Log4j team was almost non-existent and I saw this as a way to get the project going again. So IMO, I’d prefer he leave that slide so long as he also talks about these other items - or add another slide to address them. Ralph On Apr 6, 2014, at 7:00 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nice work on the presentation! > > One change I'd like to suggest is to mention the log4j TEAM. I bow down to > Ralph's superhuman effort to reboot log4j and he most definitively deserves a > mention and credit. But! One of the problems IMO with the log4j split to > slf4j and logback is that the author is a one man show. > > I feel that our process is better, even though I did not get my way with new > log levels ;) > > Gary > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> > Date:04/05/2014 23:42 (GMT-05:00) > To: Log4J Users List <log4j-user@logging.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Slides for my upcoming Introduction to Log4j 2 talk at ApacheCon > 2014 > > Yep, I can see that. Thanks! > > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Naturally. Mailing lists! :fist shaking: >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxtRBxbkr1dZNEdKTlZJa2ZVM28/edit?usp=sharing >> >> Let me know if this link works. >> >> >> On 5 April 2014 22:15, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I can't see any attachments... >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I submitted these a bit late due to not noticing when we were supposed >> to >>>> submit them, but I finished them! Attached is a PDF rendering of the >>> slides >>>> (hopefully this works). >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-user-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-user-h...@logging.apache.org >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-user-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-user-h...@logging.apache.org
