Exactly. I think it's good practice to re-build plugins for a library or
application with every update, but that's not usually necessary. It would
be a good idea to put it in changes.xml somewhere. Any suggestions?


On 19 July 2014 20:51, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see.
> Okay, so old plugins that were built before the annotation processor (and
> relied on the packages attribute) need to be re-built.
>
> Perhaps this should also be mentioned in changes.xml (with a note that the
> change was made in rc2(?) but was not included in the release notes for
> that release).
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I removed it a while ago after the annotation processor was duplicating
> its
> > functionality (in PluginManager). Since an annotation processor can also
> be
> > run on its own using the java compiler, it didn't make sense to provide
> > another tool that does the same thing.
> >
> >
> > On 19 July 2014 19:21, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > By the way, just out of interest, how come the packages attribute no
> > longer
> > > works?
> > > Is this related to the discussion in LOG4J2-673
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-673>? (But I gather from
> > the
> > > comments that the patch attached to that issue has not been committed
> > > yet...)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks, Matt!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 4:58 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Removed all those references in configuration.xml.vm, appenders.xml,
> > and
> > > >> filters.xml.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 18 July 2014 11:18, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > It would be a good idea to verify it in IntelliJ, Eclipse and
> > > NetBeans.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ralph
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Depends on if the IDE is doing anything funky. Starting with
> Java
> > > 1.6,
> > > >> > > annotation processing is enabled by default for any processors
> on
> > > the
> > > >> > > classpath, and log4j-core is certainly required on the classpath
> > for
> > > >> > > building log4j plugins. I think it should work, but there might
> be
> > > an
> > > >> IDE
> > > >> > > setting to enable it.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 18 July 2014 11:02, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> The manual still has a few places where the packages attribute
> > for
> > > >> > custom
> > > >> > >> plugins is mentioned:
> > > >> > >> * Configuration > Configuration with XML (both in the table and
> > in
> > > >> the
> > > >> > >> strict XML example)
> > > >> > >> * Configuration > Configuration with Jason (the first example
> and
> > > the
> > > >> > >> second (Routing) example)
> > > >> > >> * Configuration > Configuring Filters (the example)
> > > >> > >> * Configuration > Property Substitution (the example)
> > > >> > >> * Configuration > Status Messages (the example)
> > > >> > >> * Appenders > (most examples)
> > > >> > >> * Filters > (most examples)
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> If this attribute no longer works we should probably remove all
> > > >> > references.
> > > >> > >> We should also mention in the release notes that this mechanism
> > no
> > > >> > longer
> > > >> > >> works and users need to rebuild their custom plugins in order
> to
> > > use
> > > >> > them
> > > >> > >> with log4j-2.0.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> One concern: if I let my IDE do the compilation for my custom
> > > plugin,
> > > >> > and I
> > > >> > >> create a jar by using my IDE's "Export Jar" function, will this
> > jar
> > > >> file
> > > >> > >> include the plugin metadata file? (If not we should warn users
> > > about
> > > >> > this.)
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Matt Sicker <
> boa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> Alright, I've updated the manual to explain the current plugin
> > > >> process.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> On 17 July 2014 17:17, Jaime Sastre <jsas...@globalavl.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>> Sorry, I thought 1.5 could compile but services stuff was in
> > 1.6,
> > > >> > never
> > > >> > >>>> mind
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Sent via Xiaomi
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> On Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>, Jul 17, 2014 11:50 PM
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >>>> What do you mean? You can't compile anything using log4j-core
> > in
> > > a
> > > >> > >>> version
> > > >> > >>>> of javac older than 1.6.
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> On 17 July 2014 14:40, Jaime Sastre <jsas...@globalavl.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> But if you get the wrong versiĆ³n of javac it wont'be noticed
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> Sent via Xiaomi
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> On Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>, Jul 17, 2014 9:20 PM
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>> I'll add some documentation about it. However, the
> annotation
> > > >> > >> processor
> > > >> > >>>>> would work with Ant or even just Make. It's part of javac.
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> On 17 July 2014 13:48, Ralph Goers <
> > ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> Try looking in the util package.
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> Ralph
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:53 AM, David KOCH <dk...@ezakus.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> I am getting similiar errors: "error: package
> > > >> > >>>>>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.core.helpers does not exist" when
> > > >> trying
> > > >> > >>> to
> > > >> > >>>>>>> compile a custom appender that worked with 2.0-rc1.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> Where was this stuff moved?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> David
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Ralph Goers <
> > > >> > >>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> Matt, can you update the documentation to reflect these
> > > changes
> > > >> > >>> and
> > > >> > >>>>> tell
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> users how to make it work with and without Maven?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> Ralph
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Matt Sicker <
> boa...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> > >>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Yeah because it was only used for runtime loading. Now
> > that
> > > >> > >>>>> log4j-core
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> contains an annotation processor that automatically
> > creates
> > > >> > >> your
> > > >> > >>>>> plugin
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> .dat file, there's no need for the packages attribute.
> > It's
> > > >> > >>>>> effectively
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> impossible to build a plugin without using log4j-core in
> > the
> > > >> > >>>>> classpath,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> so
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> it's unnecessary to support the packages attribute. In
> > > >> > >>> log4j-core,
> > > >> > >>>> I
> > > >> > >>>>>> had
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> to
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> add some special maven-compiler-plugin settings just to
> > get
> > > >> > >>>>> log4j-core
> > > >> > >>>>>> to
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> use an annotation processor from log4j-core, but other
> > > >> projects
> > > >> > >>>>> (e.g.,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> all
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> the other log4j modules) only need to depend on
> log4j-core
> > > to
> > > >> > >> get
> > > >> > >>>>>> loaded
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> at
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> runtime.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Now if you're using a custom plugin that was built
> against
> > > an
> > > >> > >>> older
> > > >> > >>>>>>>> version
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> of log4j, it might not have used the processor at the
> > time.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> On 17 July 2014 10:28, Remko Popma <
> remko.po...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> > >>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> Packages are ignored?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Matt Sicker <
> > > >> > >> boa...@gmail.com
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> The packages attribute is ignored right now. You have
> to
> > > >> make
> > > >> > >>>> sure
> > > >> > >>>>>> you
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> build your custom plugins using log4j-core in the
> > > classpath
> > > >> > >>>> (which
> > > >> > >>>>> is
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> sort
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> of necessary anyways). Also make sure you haven't
> > disabled
> > > >> > >>>>> annotation
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> processing (it's on by default).
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 17 July 2014 07:34, Jaime Sastre <
> > > jsas...@globalavl.com>
> > > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yep:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <Configuration packages="com.globalavl.commons.log4j"
> > > >> > >>>>> status="WARN">
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Package is right and and according to
> Log4j-config.xsd
> > > the
> > > >> > >> xml
> > > >> > >>>> is
> > > >> > >>>>>> fine
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> as
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am debugging some log4j code
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> De: Remko Popma [mailto:remko.po...@gmail.com]
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado el: jueves, 17 de julio de 2014 13:46
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Para: Log4J Users List
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Asunto: Re: Cannot set up my custom layout in 2.0
> > (worked
> > > >> in
> > > >> > >>>> rc1)
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the correct packages="..." attribute
> > > specified
> > > >> > >> in
> > > >> > >>>> the
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <Configuration> element?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2014/07/17, at 19:08, Jaime Sastre <
> > > >> > >> jsas...@globalavl.com
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Congrats for the release, I been enjoying the
> progress
> > > of
> > > >> > >> it.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> My problema is that I have my layout annotated like
> > > this:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> @Plugin(name = "GlobalAVLJSONLayout", category =
> > "Core",
> > > >> > >>>>>> elementType
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> =
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "layout", printObject = true) public class
> > > >> > >>> GlobalAVLJSONLayout
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> extends
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> AbstractStringLayout {
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In log4j2.xml:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>                            <RollingRandomAccessFile
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> name="RollingRandomAccessFile" immediateFlush="false"
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> fileName="c:/tmp/logs/conf-app.log"
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >>
> filePattern="conf-logs/$${date:yyyy-MM}/app-%d{MM-dd-yyyy}-%i.log.gz">
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> <GlobalAVLJSONLayout
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> source="persistidor" />
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  <Policies>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <TimeBasedTriggeringPolicy />
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <SizeBasedTriggeringPolicy size="100 MB" />
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  </Policies>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> <DefaultRolloverStrategy
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> max="5" />
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>  </RollingRandomAccessFile>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked with rc1 but with rc2 and 2.0, I am
> getting
> > > >> this:
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-07-17 12:11:20,768 ERROR
> RollingRandomAccessFile
> > > >> > >>> contains
> > > >> > >>>> an
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> invalid element or attribute "GlobalAVLJSONLayout"
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not able to find any related change in release
> > > notes.
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help?
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> > >>
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> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
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> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> --
> > > >> > >>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> --
> > > >> > >>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> --
> > > >> > >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
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> > > >> >
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