OK, then the keeping config nodes approach might not be a good idea.
However, I still don't think that the benefit of being able to inspect
appender's config justifies the cost of increasing the complexity of every
appender (including future ones and 3rd party plugins).
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Apostolis Giannakidis <
ap.giannaki...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One use case that I have at hand at the moment is that I want to be able
> to verify that my appenders have the expected configuration attributes. For
> example, I would like to be able to verify that my syslog appender is
> connecting to the expected host,port,protocol, etc.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com
> > wrote:
>
>> It would be useful if Apostolis Giannakidis can explain the use case
>> behind this request, now it is a bit abstract to me.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I mean keeping the Node tree to get attributes. It would only work from
>>> config files (and the config builder classes). We get questions every so
>>> often about modifying the config programmatically which would either need
>>> to maintain more Nodes or just be unsupported.
>>>
>>> On 27 January 2016 at 09:09, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I don't quite understand what you mean.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > That sounds a little fragile as some people either create or modify
>>> their
>>> > > creation directly from the plugin factories.
>>> > >
>>> > > On 27 January 2016 at 07:05, Mikael Ståldal <
>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Then perhaps we should keep the node tree and expose it for this
>>> kind
>>> > of
>>> > > > queries, something like this:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > String hostname = loggerContext.getConfiguration().
>>> > > > getAttributesForAppender("syslogAppender").get("host");
>>> > > >
>>> > > > This would require a new method in
>>> > > > org.apache.logging.log4j.core.config.Configuration:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > public Map<String, String> getAttributesForAppender(String
>>> > appenderName);
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>> > ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > While I understand your point, the node tree is discarded after
>>> the
>>> > > > > plugins are created. We would have to keep it around for this to
>>> > work.
>>> > > > > Furthermore, each component would need to have a reference to its
>>> > > > > corresponding node, which we obviously don't currently do.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Ralph
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Jan 27, 2016, at 2:33 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>> > > mikael.stal...@magine.com
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > To me it does not seems good to force all Appender
>>> implementations
>>> > to
>>> > > > > > implement this. Especially not since the next logical step
>>> would
>>> > then
>>> > > > be
>>> > > > > to
>>> > > > > > do the same with other components such as Layouts. That would
>>> be a
>>> > > lot
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > > > work in total, and also add more work for all future
>>> components,
>>> > > > > including
>>> > > > > > 3rd party plugins.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I think it makes more sense, and would be less work in total,
>>> if
>>> > the
>>> > > > > > configuration system would store and expose those attributes
>>> > without
>>> > > > > > involving the components themselves.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Gary Gregory <
>>> > > garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >> Apostolis,
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> You are warmly welcome to contribute to Log4j. You can create
>>> a
>>> > JIRA
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > >> attach a patch in unified diff file format. Unit tests as
>>> part of
>>> > > the
>>> > > > > patch
>>> > > > > >> are a must IMO. Feel free to flush out any design or
>>> > implementation
>>> > > > > here on
>>> > > > > >> the dev ML.
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> Thank you!
>>> > > > > >> Gary
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>> > > > > ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >>> All the attributes have to have String representations to be
>>> > usable
>>> > > > in
>>> > > > > >> the
>>> > > > > >>> XML, JSON & Properties configurations. Yes, the Map could
>>> contain
>>> > > > > Objects
>>> > > > > >>> but then every one of them has to be cast to its real object
>>> to
>>> > be
>>> > > > > >> usable.
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>> The map should be read-only because modifying its contents
>>> would
>>> > > have
>>> > > > > no
>>> > > > > >>> effect on the appender.
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>> The map should not be stored in an ivar but constructed
>>> whenever
>>> > > the
>>> > > > > >>> attributes are retrieved. Otherwise it will be temping to
>>> just
>>> > keep
>>> > > > > them
>>> > > > > >> in
>>> > > > > >>> a map and not as individual attributes, which would cause
>>> > problems.
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>> If you have nesting such as MyAppender extends
>>> MyBaseAppender
>>> > > > extends
>>> > > > > >>> AbstractOutputStreamAppender extends AbstractAppender, I
>>> > envision a
>>> > > > > >>> fillAttributes method at each “level” that fills in the
>>> > attributes
>>> > > it
>>> > > > > >> knows
>>> > > > > >>> about, so fillAttributeMap(map) should always call
>>> > > > > >>> super.fillAttributeMap(map) - except in AbstractAppender of
>>> > course
>>> > > -
>>> > > > > and
>>> > > > > >>> should call it before filling in its own attributes so that
>>> it
>>> > can
>>> > > > > >> override
>>> > > > > >>> any values provided by the base Appenders. If the primary
>>> > Appender
>>> > > > > does
>>> > > > > >>> not implement fillAttributeMap then only the attributes of
>>> its
>>> > > super
>>> > > > > >>> classes will be included, which is actually correct for the
>>> > > > > >> SyslogAppender.
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>> Ralph
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Apostolis Giannakidis <
>>> > > > > >>> ap.giannaki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>> One thing to note here. Correct me if I am wrong, but the
>>> map
>>> > > should
>>> > > > > >>>> be Map<String,
>>> > > > > >>>> Object> because not all attributes are Strings. From the
>>> top of
>>> > my
>>> > > > > >> head,
>>> > > > > >>> I
>>> > > > > >>>> know that an attribute could also be a boolean.
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Gary Gregory <
>>> > > > > garydgreg...@gmail.com
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> I could see AbstractAppender implementing a getAttributes()
>>> > > method
>>> > > > > >> like
>>> > > > > >>>>> this:
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> public Map<String, String> getAttributes() {
>>> > > > > >>>>> Map<String, String> map = new HashMap<>();
>>> > > > > >>>>> fillAttributeMap(map);
>>> > > > > >>>>> // (1) should the map be read-only? why?
>>> > > > > >>>>> // (2) if the map is cached in an ivar, the it must
>>> be
>>> > > > updated
>>> > > > > >> by
>>> > > > > >>>>> each appender when an attribute changes, so
>>> > > > > >>>>> // I'd say no and follow the KISS principle for now.
>>> > > > > >>>>> return map;
>>> > > > > >>>>> }
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> protected void fillAttributeMap(Map<String, String> map)
>>> {
>>> > > > > >>>>> // ...
>>> > > > > >>>>> }
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> The boilerplate of creating and/or managing the map can be
>>> in
>>> > > > > >>>>> getAttributes().
>>> > > > > >>>>> Actually filling in the map in is done in
>>> fillAttributeMap()
>>> > > which
>>> > > > > >> each
>>> > > > > >>>>> appender can override.
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> fillAttributeMap() could be abstract to force each
>>> appender to
>>> > > make
>>> > > > > >> sure
>>> > > > > >>>>> developers pay attention to providing an implementation.
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> Gary
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Apostolis Giannakidis <
>>> > > > > >>>>> ap.giannaki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> Well, since the idea is to add it to the Appender
>>> interface,
>>> > it
>>> > > > > means
>>> > > > > >>>>> that
>>> > > > > >>>>>> all concrete Appenders need to be modified as well. So,
>>> yes, I
>>> > > can
>>> > > > > >> give
>>> > > > > >>>>> it
>>> > > > > >>>>>> a try to implement it for all the Appenders. One other
>>> simple
>>> > > way
>>> > > > > >> would
>>> > > > > >>>>> be
>>> > > > > >>>>>> to implement it once in the AbstractAppender so that all
>>> its
>>> > > > > >> subclasses
>>> > > > > >>>>>> will inherit it.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>> > > > > >> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Apostolis Giannakidis <
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> ap.giannaki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Actually, since this seems to be a useful feature, I
>>> would
>>> > > love
>>> > > > to
>>> > > > > >> do
>>> > > > > >>>>>> the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> patch myself and contribute it to the project, if you
>>> don't
>>> > > > mind.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Do you plan on implementing this for all Appenders?
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Gary
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>> > > > > >>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Actually, I kind of like the idea of adding a
>>> > getAttributes()
>>> > > > > >>>>> method
>>> > > > > >>>>>> to
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the Appender interface. Then each concrete Appender
>>> would
>>> > do:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> public void getAttributes() {
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Map<String, String> attributes = new HashMap<>();
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> super.getAttributes(attributes):
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> attributes.put(“myAttribute1”, “value1”);
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> return Collections.unmodifiableMap(attributes);
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> }
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>> > > > > >>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> How about adding getters for the fields
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> in
>>> > org.apache.logging.log4j.core.net.AbstractSocketManager?
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Matt Sicker <
>>> > > > boa...@gmail.com
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> You could always use reflection to access it for now.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 26 January 2016 at 14:17, Apostolis Giannakidis <
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ap.giannaki...@gmail.com
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the prompt reply Ralph.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can see, the SyslogAppender class does
>>> not
>>> > > > expose
>>> > > > > a
>>> > > > > >>>>>> way
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> to
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> access these attributes. So, if there is no other
>>> way of
>>> > > > > >>>>>> accessing
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> these
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> attributes, then I am not able to retrieve the
>>> > attributes
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > > >>>>> I
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> want
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> from
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the existing SyslogAppender implementation. If I
>>> > > understand
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> correctly,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> correct me if I am wrong, I might have to create my
>>> own
>>> > > that
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> exposes
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> these
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> attributes.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Apos
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not exactly. You can do:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Appender appender =
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ctx.getConfiguration().getAppender(“syslogAppender”);
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> then you would have to do
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> SyslogAppender syslogAppender = (SyslogAppender)
>>> > > appender;
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> normally you would probably use instanceof to
>>> verify it
>>> > > is
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> actually
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> a
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> SyslogAppender.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you have that you can call whatever methods
>>> the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> SyslogAppender
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> exposes for getting its attributes. They are not
>>> stored
>>> > > in
>>> > > > a
>>> > > > > >>>>> Map
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> however,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> so you can’t just call a generic getAttribute
>>> method.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Apostolis
>>> Giannakidis <
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ap.giannaki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello team,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have created a logger with an appender using the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ConfigurationBuilder
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the AppenderComponentBuilder.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's say that this is how I create my appender:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AppenderComponentBuilder appenderBuilder =
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> builder.newAppender( "syslogAppender",
>>> > > > > >>>>> "Syslog" )
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .addAttribute( "protocol", "TCP" )
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .addAttribute( "host", "localhost" )
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .addAttribute( "port", 514 )
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .addAttribute( "facility", "LOCAL2" )
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .addAttribute( "immediateFlush", true
>>> )
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .addAttribute( "newLine", true );
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, after I finish creating the builder I use
>>> the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Configurator.initialize( builder.build() ) to get
>>> the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> LoggerContext.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any way I can access the attributes of
>>> the
>>> > > > appender
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> through
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> LoggerContext?
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example something like this:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> LoggerContext ctx = Configurator.initialize(
>>> > > > builder.build()
>>> > > > > >>>>> );
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> String hostname =
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> ctx.getConfiguration()..getAppenders().get("syslogAppender").getAttribute("host");
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you all very much for your help.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apostolis
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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