Dear ARF:

You might find the phil-logic list
(http://philo.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/phil-logic) a more suitable
venue than f.om. for your inquire.

Evidentemente, você também será bem-vindo entre os quase 400 membros
atuais da nossa LOGICA-L.

Abraços,
Joao Marcos

On 8/1/11, Walter Carnielli <walter.carnie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Arf  dear  all:
>
> Arf (Dick)  has a good idea for starting a new  list, but my
> experience is that we'd need a  massive  number  of  people to make it
> keep  running.  Lists need nutties
> to keep conversation going on (but of  course do  not  need  Martin
> Davies  to call discussions "too metaphysical).
>
> The Brazilian list  "Lista dos Logicos Basileiros " <logica-l@dimap.ufrn.br>
>
> is already a good  place,   and  some discussions go  in English . But
> even if having  a good number   of  subscribers (already 200)
> sometimes it gets  silent for a log time.
>
> So, to sum sup, I think it is not a bad idea, but  if we don't  get an
> expressive  number of people   interested it would be  doomed to
> failure  pretty soon.
>
> About the  attempts  that  have been made to show that logic is an
> objective science  in that  sense, I   personally  do not  know!
>
> By the way,  the ARF  Group  had two members  attending and giving
> talks  at  “Beyond the Possible” , a conference dedicated to  RIchard
> Sylvan's memory held  in  Melbourne,   from July 27-29 2011
>
> . http://sites.google.com/site/btpconference/home
>
> Fred and I gave talks  there, and  it was very  nice to meet!
>
> All the best,
>
> Walter
>
> 2011/8/2 ARF (Richard L. Epstein) <r...@advancedreasoningforum.org>:
>> I am writing to suggest that we start a new e-mail communication
>> (list-serve) for (roughly) Logic,
>> Epistemology, Philosophy of Science, and Philosophy of Mathematics.
>>
>> Some of us have been trying to use the FOM list-serve for this purpose,
>> but that isn't suitable.
>> What is allowed and what is not is never clear, and just when a discussion
>> gets interesting, as with
>> Staffan's most recent posting, Martin Davis shuts it down as being "too
>> metaphysical".
>>
>> We could initially advertise our list-serve on FOM as an alternative.  We
>> could host it through the
>> ARF website <www.AdvancedReasoningForum.org>, where we could keep an
>> archive of the postings.  We
>> would need one person who could be the editor, whose job is to check that
>> postings aren't completely
>> nutty (there are always cranks who get in) or vicious, but not to enforce
>> intellectual limits
>> otherwise. (??)  We'd also need a board of editors to whom questionable
>> postings could be directed
>> for evaluation.  I'm not willing to be the editor, but I'd be glad to be
>> on the board.
>>
>> On a personal note, I think that the first attempt at a way to communicate
>> among academics like this
>> in logic was the Recursive Function Theory Newsletter that Barry Cooper
>> and I started in 1972 in
>> Berkeley.
>>
>> Let me know what you think--how we might organize it, how we might better
>> describe the subject
>> matter, and whether you think the project is worth the effort.  Please
>> pass this e-mail along to
>> others who might be interested.
>>
>> Here is an example of what we could post (FOM rejected it).  I need help
>> with it:
>>
>> ****
>> Can anyone tell me what attempts have been made to show that logic is an
>> objective science that do
>> not rely on the assumption that:
>>      1. propositions are abstract objects
>> or   2. propositions are linguistic, perhaps in a formalized version,
>> whose structure parses reality
>> exactly and correctly?
>> ****
>>
>> All the best,  Arf
>>
>>
>
>
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