David, Thanks! I’ve been poking around. You video from a few years ago is very useful.
So this would require us enabling our blackboard courses and placing a link in blackboard under the spot where we would normally place a blackboard exam? I have to admit, I have steered clear of blackboard (very, very clear) so far, so I am not very blackboard conversant. Do the students need to sign up for the slot then in LON-CAPA before taking the exam? In blackboard you simply link to the regular LON-CAPA login I presume and the student navigates to the exam? How does proctortrack select/find out about the user and password for the slot? I know you’re probably insanely busy, but is it okay to email back with other questions if they come up? Mark > On Mar 17, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Huckleberry, David W <dhuck...@purdue.edu> wrote: > > Mark, > I use Proctortrack for our online PHYS 172 course. It does use a single slot, > and that is given to Proctortrack via the Blackboard Exam. > > Student logs into Blackboard > Clicks on the Proctortrack link > After verifying identity, they click the Exam link and that redirects to > LON-CAPA > They were told the proctorusername, but then paste the password from > Proctortrack (never seeing it) > Then they take exam in LC as usual. > > Works very well. No human proctor, all video based, so no scheduling needed > for students. > > Dave > > > David W. Huckleberry, MS Ed. > Coordinator of Digital Instruction > College of Science - Physics & Astronomy > PHYS 176 > 525 Northwestern Avenue > West Lafayette, IN 47907 > o: 765-494-9575 > dhuck...@purdue.edu > > > > > Vice-Chair of Compensation and Benefits Cmte > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LON-CAPA-users <lon-capa-users-boun...@mail.lon-capa.org> On Behalf Of > lon-capa-users-requ...@mail.lon-capa.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 1:00 PM > To: lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org > Subject: LON-CAPA-users Digest, Vol 99, Issue 6 > > Send LON-CAPA-users mailing list submissions to > lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.lon-capa.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flon-capa-users&data=02%7C01%7Clucasm%40ohio.edu%7C04e0937642f04d180e1508d7ca958013%7Cf3308007477c4a70888934611817c55a%7C0%7C0%7C637200615789156620&sdata=%2FUDAvFSFD1T044OKS89yM5GNJuy5AlLaClnat9CTExA%3D&reserved=0 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lon-capa-users-requ...@mail.lon-capa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lon-capa-users-ow...@mail.lon-capa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of LON-CAPA-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Proctoring for Online (Lucas, Mark) > 2. Re: Conditional Blocks (Raeburn, Stuart) > 3. Re: Conditional Blocks (Harding, Gene L) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:34:10 -0400 > From: "Lucas, Mark" <luc...@ohio.edu> > To: lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org > Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] Proctoring for Online > Message-ID: <ce54264c-03f5-4efe-8aa8-a350b35b6...@ohio.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Does someone have a short description of the online proctoring process handy? > > As Gerd mentioned, Examity has been used by MSU and knows how to do things, > but I?m about ready to send information to OIT, and using a system besides > ProctorTrack via Blackboard will probably be dissuaded. > > What physically does the proctor do to interact with a student taking an exam? > > Does this require the use of slots? > > Mark > > -- > Mark Lucas email: > luc...@ohio.edu > 252D Clippinger Lab phone: > (740)597-2984 > Department of Physics and Astronomy fax: (740)593-0433 > Ohio University > Athens, OH 45701 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 16:53:29 +0000 > From: "Raeburn, Stuart" <raeb...@msu.edu> > To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users > <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org> > Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks > Message-ID: > > <dm5pr12mb23419d358faa59337a3a76dbb6...@dm5pr12mb2341.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Gene, > >> >> When I turn on lenient grading, it does not allow multiple attempts, >> even if tries < maxtries. Is that normal? >> > > Yes. > Besides enabling lenient grading you need to set the: "Partially correct is > answerable" (retrypartial) parameter to "yes" > > Stuart Raeburn > LON-CAPA Academic Consortium > > ________________________________________ > From: LON-CAPA-users <lon-capa-users-boun...@mail.lon-capa.org> on behalf of > Harding, Gene L <glhar...@purdue.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:39 AM > To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users > Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks > > Thanks Doug! The syntax you sent, combined with code I wrote for a different > problem, allowed me to get something workable, although I still have two > issues to sort out: > > 1. How do I get the score for a problem part? I assume it?s > &stored_data(?partscore?,?partid?); where partscore is the name of a variable > holding the score for partid, but I do not know the variable name. > > 2. When I turn on lenient grading, it does not allow multiple attempts, > even if tries < maxtries. Is that normal? > > By the way, is there documentation somewhere with a list of parameters, like > maxtries, and data variables, like tries? I think I could figure my way > through this without bugging the listserv if I had such a document? > > Best regards, > > Gene L. Harding, PE > Associate Professor of ECET > Purdue University > 574-520-4190 > https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fpolytechnic.purdue.edu%2Fsouth-bend%2F__%3B!!HXCxUKc!ggjQy2wnvdetDlYjob_8OAx4Idi05kA9C8pA6TaSvfll46OrYocqZ9F61V5Qvw%24&data=02%7C01%7Clucasm%40ohio.edu%7C04e0937642f04d180e1508d7ca958013%7Cf3308007477c4a70888934611817c55a%7C0%7C0%7C637200615789156620&sdata=A4sUYdsn2nqShDyIVUWFI3gzkYltaSZbjwfq7YC3nKw%3D&reserved=0> > > From: LON-CAPA-users <lon-capa-users-boun...@mail.lon-capa.org> On Behalf Of > Mills, Douglas G > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:39 PM > To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org> > Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks > > Hi Gene, > > The code I pulled from a quiz I coded and may perhaps give you the right idea: > > <block condition="($current==2) || ($answer_available)"> > > In your case you will probably want to make the condition either than > question 1 has been answered correctly or that all the tried have been used. > I can track specifics down for that if needed but perhaps the example is > enough to get you on the right track? > > Doug > > -sent from mobile- > > > On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Harding, Gene L > <glhar...@purdue.edu<mailto:glhar...@purdue.edu>> wrote: > ? > Hi, > > I am working on a problem for an upcoming exam. In the past I have just done > it via paper exam, which was fine until now. (I did plan to do it in LON-CAPA > someday, but thanks to Corona, someday is now here.) > > The problem starts with an optionresponse. After the student answers it, I > want to show a radiobuttonresponse problem, then show a figure and a matrix > equation containing 15 parts. In the past I have used the > ?display-one-part-at-a-time? feature, but the catch is that the matrix > equation has 15 parts in it, and I need to show the figure and all 15 parts > of the matrix equation at the same time, right after the radio button problem. > > I suspect I can do it with a <block></block> tag, but am having trouble > finding examples of conditional expressions and variables that I can use > inside the <block> code. Does anyone know of a good resource for that info, > or know the parameters and syntax I need to use? I have explored the > authoring guide and LON-CAPA online help, done web searches, and looked > through YouTube, all to no avail? > > Best regards, > > Gene L. Harding, PE > Associate Professor of ECET > Purdue University > 574-520-4190 > https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fpolytechnic.purdue.edu%2Fsouth-bend%2F__%3B!!HXCxUKc!ggjQy2wnvdetDlYjob_8OAx4Idi05kA9C8pA6TaSvfll46OrYocqZ9F61V5Qvw%24&data=02%7C01%7Clucasm%40ohio.edu%7C04e0937642f04d180e1508d7ca958013%7Cf3308007477c4a70888934611817c55a%7C0%7C0%7C637200615789156620&sdata=A4sUYdsn2nqShDyIVUWFI3gzkYltaSZbjwfq7YC3nKw%3D&reserved=0> > > _______________________________________________ > LON-CAPA-users mailing list > LON-CAPA-users@mail.lon-capa.org<mailto:LON-CAPA-users@mail.lon-capa.org> > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.lon-capa.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flon-capa-users&data=02%7C01%7Clucasm%40ohio.edu%7C04e0937642f04d180e1508d7ca958013%7Cf3308007477c4a70888934611817c55a%7C0%7C0%7C637200615789156620&sdata=%2FUDAvFSFD1T044OKS89yM5GNJuy5AlLaClnat9CTExA%3D&reserved=0 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 16:58:56 +0000 > From: "Harding, Gene L" <glhar...@purdue.edu> > To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users > <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org> > Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks > Message-ID: > > <cy4pr2201mb1527a120d066e6be4eb3cb2eb0...@cy4pr2201mb1527.namprd22.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Doug, Stuart, > > Thanks! That was the missing piece I needed. I thought I found what I needed > in &check_status(?partid?) on page 29 of the Author Manual, but it does not > work well when using both lenient grading and retrypartial. (I did eventually > figure out that I needed to add retrypartial.) In that case check_status > returns 1 even if the answer is only partially correct. Because of that, I > was not able to craft a conditional expression to do what I needed. > > The data value ?awarded?, however, is a floating point value between 0 and 1 > indicating how much credit was awarded. It works even when using both lenient > and retrypartial. > > Thank you both for your help. All I need to do now is add a few more comments > and it will be done. > > Best regards, > > Gene L. Harding, PE > Associate Professor of ECET > Purdue University > 574-520-4190 > https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/ > > From: LON-CAPA-users <lon-capa-users-boun...@mail.lon-capa.org> On Behalf Of > Mills, Douglas G > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:32 PM > To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org> > Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks > > Hi Gene, > > Check this out! > > https://s10.lite.msu.edu/res/msu/albertel/test/ext_examples.problem#0 > > Doug > > -sent from mobile- > > > On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Harding, Gene L > <glhar...@purdue.edu<mailto:glhar...@purdue.edu>> wrote: > ? > Thanks Doug! The syntax you sent, combined with code I wrote for a different > problem, allowed me to get something workable, although I still have two > issues to sort out: > > 1. How do I get the score for a problem part? I assume it?s > &stored_data(?partscore?,?partid?); where partscore is the name of a variable > holding the score for partid, but I do not know the variable name. > > 2. When I turn on lenient grading, it does not allow multiple attempts, > even if tries < maxtries. Is that normal? > > By the way, is there documentation somewhere with a list of parameters, like > maxtries, and data variables, like tries? I think I could figure my way > through this without bugging the listserv if I had such a document? > > Best regards, > > Gene L. Harding, PE > Associate Professor of ECET > Purdue University > 574-520-4190 > https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/ > > From: LON-CAPA-users > <lon-capa-users-boun...@mail.lon-capa.org<mailto:lon-capa-users-boun...@mail.lon-capa.org>> > On Behalf Of Mills, Douglas G > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 11:39 PM > To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users > <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org<mailto:lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org>> > Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks > > Hi Gene, > > The code I pulled from a quiz I coded and may perhaps give you the right idea: > > <block condition="($current==2) || ($answer_available)"> > > In your case you will probably want to make the condition either than > question 1 has been answered correctly or that all the tried have been used. > I can track specifics down for that if needed but perhaps the example is > enough to get you on the right track? > > Doug > > -sent from mobile- > > > > On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Harding, Gene L > <glhar...@purdue.edu<mailto:glhar...@purdue.edu>> wrote: > ? > Hi, > > I am working on a problem for an upcoming exam. In the past I have just done > it via paper exam, which was fine until now. (I did plan to do it in LON-CAPA > someday, but thanks to Corona, someday is now here.) > > The problem starts with an optionresponse. After the student answers it, I > want to show a radiobuttonresponse problem, then show a figure and a matrix > equation containing 15 parts. In the past I have used the > ?display-one-part-at-a-time? feature, but the catch is that the matrix > equation has 15 parts in it, and I need to show the figure and all 15 parts > of the matrix equation at the same time, right after the radio button problem. > > I suspect I can do it with a <block></block> tag, but am having trouble > finding examples of conditional expressions and variables that I can use > inside the <block> code. Does anyone know of a good resource for that info, > or know the parameters and syntax I need to use? I have explored the > authoring guide and LON-CAPA online help, done web searches, and looked > through YouTube, all to no avail? > > Best regards, > > Gene L. 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