Paul,

To be fair I think Mr Trotter,he is chief of the British Transport
Police was saying. There is no excuse for the police not to know what
the proper procedures are, as they have all been issued with the
appropriate advice.. I think what was meant by seeing what people were
up to was something like, 'Good morning sir what are you doing'. 'I am
just photographing those buses'. 'OK have a nice day'

Perhaps they should discipline the errant PCs, that may focus their
minds.

John King.


On 4 Dec, 22:24, plcd1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> John, Peter and all,
>
> I shall attempt to remain calm but I can my blood pressure rising as I
> type!
>
> Mr Trotter wants to get off his backside and damn well make sure that
> everyone in the police tasked with enforcing the law is competent and
> can do their jobs properly. It is as simple and as straightforward as
> that. If he can't or won't do that then he should resign and be
> replaced by someone who will do it. I don't expect a senior police
> officer to appear on the telly and make excuses for the incompetence
> of people he is responsible for. As a British Citizen I do not expect
> to be treated as an alien or a threat in my own country.
>
> I watched the short excerpt from the Andrew Marr show - dear old
> Mariella Frostrup got it straight away - "this is an infringement of
> our freedoms and not what what we expect in this country" (or words to
> that effect). Well done her - does she want to do a "Joanne Lumley"
> and fight for photographers' rights by any chance?
>
> Paul Corfield
>
> On 4 Dec, 13:10, John King <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > What is interesting is that on 'Breakfast' this morning as mentioned
> > in the article Chief Constable Andy Trotter said that the police have
> > a duty to ask what people are doing, He also said that a decent
> > policeman could determine that within a short while of asking. The
> > problems seem to be mainly, but not exclusively with PCSOs. They seem
> > to be poorly trained in the job they are supposed to do. They are the
> > reaction to a public tat want more police on the streets, but are
> > unwilling to pay for the proper police to do the job.
>
> > John King.
>
> > On 4 Dec, 12:38, "Peter Relf" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Sorry to raise this subject again, but it has been the subject of 
> > > considerable media interest in the last few days.
>
> > > I suggest that all photographers print out the article at:  
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/photoblog/
>
> > > and also the Met Police Guidelines to their officers on the subject at:  
> > > http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm
>
> > > and carry a copy with you at all times when out photographing.
>
> > > Note especially on the Met page that:  
> > > Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or 
> > > photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming 
> > > or photographing incidents or police personnel.
>
> > > Officers do not have the power to delete digital images or destroy film 
> > > at any point during a search.
>
> > > Underline those paragraphs on your copy, and show it to anyone who 
> > > challenges you.
>
> > > We must stand up for our rights on this issue, and not be intimidated by 
> > > PCSOs and the like who don't know the Law..
>
> > > Peter R.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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