I've noticed that a couple of threads have been wandering between the dircon and hfb lists. I think that we should be heavily deprecating the hfb list now and as some people are only on the dircon list it means that they are only getting a partial transcript of the discussion. Can everyone please double check any london.pm aliases that they might have set up and if you see any discussions going to hfb can you repoint them as appropriate. Cheers, Dave...